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[My Goodness My Guinness]

The only one I can think of is Tiki Barber. He changed the way he held the ball and drastically improved his fumbling problem.
But I agree it is very hard to fix this issue. I still get chills thinking of how Foster used to run with the ball way out away from his body. Fumble waiting to happen.

Oh man Foster was the worst. He was like Peterson without the production. Stewart fumbles a lot too but because he fights for the extra yards and gets held up


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[ncfan]

Shows how much research people do on here

 

"he fumble's to much"

he actually graded out Better than Cook And Mixon.  Both guys who many on here really like.  Cook was praised as the top RB by many on here and a want at #8, meanwhile not a peep was brought up about his fumbling.  Mixon most agreed that is one of the top 3 RB talent wise in this class and had some saying the talent was to good to pass him because the off field issues.

 

 

"He's a bad blocker"

not sure what other players people have been watching.  But Foreman graded out as one if not the Top blocker of all RBs.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/donta-foreman-is-college-footballs-best-blocking-rb/amp/

 

Would love to draft the kid.  Only thing that scares me is his injury at the combine, Even though he came back and ran at the pro day

[Catufb85]

3 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Shows how much research people do on here

 

"he fumble's to much"

he actually graded out Better than Cook And Mixon.  Both guys who many on here really like.  Cook was praised as the top RB by many on here and a want at #8, meanwhile not a peep was brought up about his fumbling.  Mixon most agreed that is one of the top 3 RB talent wise in this class and had some saying the talent was to good to pass him because the off field issues.

 

 

"He's a bad blocker"

not sure what other players people have been watching.  But Foreman graded out as one if not the Top blocker of all RBs.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/donta-foreman-is-college-footballs-best-blocking-rb/amp/

 

Would love to draft the kid.  Only thing that scares me is his injury at the combine, Even though he came back and ran at the pro day

Thank you! because they aren't the big names folks want to throw players under the bus.  All of the negativity folk throwing at him can be coached.  Traits and positives he has can't be coached.

 

[ncfan]

2 minutes ago, Catufb85 said:

Thank you! because they aren't the big names folks want to throw players under the bus.  All of the negativity folk throwing at him can be coached.  Traits and positives he has can't be coached.

 

He's big and fast and find/run through a hole.  For a later pick it's a no brainer.  Not the shiftiness but on film and watch Cook a Lot,  they have the same wiggle and shiftyness.  Just Foreman is 25 lbs heavier.

[Marguide]

So if some want to disqualify this guy for his fumble rate, does that apply to Fournette as well?

[Catufb85]

2 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

He could of ran a 4.3 flat for all I care, his tape shows he isn't a big play threat.

 

 

Lord people do some research... isn't big play threat... check these stats out...

Situation	G	Att	Yards	Avg.	TD	Long	1st	10+	20+
All Plays	11	323	2028	6.28	15	74	98	49	16
1st Half	11	158	903	5.72	6	55	50	22	7
2nd Half/OT	11	165	1125	6.82	9	74	48	27	9
1st Quarter	11	80	430	5.38	3	37	25	13	3
2nd Quarter	11	78	473	6.06	3	55	25	9	4
3rd Quarter	11	83	543	6.54	4	62	24	11	4
4th Quarter	10	79	578	7.32	5	74	24	16	5
Overtime	2	3	4	1.33	0	5	0	0	0
1st Down	11	162	1055	6.51	10	62	26	27	9
2nd Down	11	109	673	6.17	3	55	42	16	5
3rd Down	11	43	267	6.21	2	74	23	5	2
3rd Down, 1-3 To Go	10	31	177	5.71	1	74	20	3	1
3rd Down, 4-6 To Go	4	4	30	7.50	1	19	2	1	0
3rd Down, 7-9 To Go	3	3	15	5.00	0	8	1	0	0
3rd Down, 10+ To Go	5	5	45	9.00	0	24	0	1	1
4th Down	5	9	33	3.67	0	10	7	1	0
Own 1 To 20 Yd Ln	10	35	201	5.74	0	32	8	5	2
Own 21 To 39 Yd Ln	11	93	680	7.31	2	74	32	16	5
Own 40 To Opp 40 Yd Ln	11	78	549	7.04	1	47	27	14	4
Opp 39 To 21 Yd Ln	11	67	395	5.90	4	38	22	11	5
Opp 20 To 1 Yd Ln (RZ)	10	50	203	4.06	8	19	9	3	0
Winning By 15+ Pts	2	6	33	5.50	0	10	2	1	0
Winning By 8-14 Pts	4	21	167	7.95	2	74	6	3	1
Winning By 1-7 Pts	7	68	418	6.15	4	40	21	10	3
Tied	8	43	230	5.35	1	37	12	7	1
Losing By 1-7 Pts	11	140	853	6.09	6	55	43	20	7
Losing By 8-14 Pts	6	34	172	5.06	1	32	8	3	2
Losing By 15+ Pts	4	11	155	14.09	1	62	6	5	2

[Catufb85]

What you will notice from these statistics is:

10+ yard runs 49

20+ runs 16

3rd in long (over 5 yards to go) over 5.00 yards a carry. 3 and 10 he averaged 9.00 yards a carry.

Inside the redzone 4.08 yards a carry and 8 Touchdowns. Meaning almost half of his touchdowns came from runs outside of the redzone..  Yall can take a look at the rest.

but I would say the dude is pretty much a big run threat.

just saying.. numbers don't lie.

[hepcat]

I watched Foreman a lot at Texas last season. At first glance Foreman is a beast. He's deceptively fast for as big as he is, breaks a ton of tackles, and by all accounts is a good guy with his head on straight. On physical ability alone he's at the top of the list. Where he lacks is he doesn't seem to have pass blocked a lot, and he has had some issues with fumbling. 

I have a few issues with him though. The Longhorns ran him into the ground last season. Texas's offense last year was run Foreman (323 carries!) and throw bombs. Panthers already have a RB with a history of foot injuries and we know they can linger. He's just not as pro-ready as some of the other RBs in the draft. He'll need to learn to be a solid pass blocker and also correct his knack for fumbling especially in key moments of games.

He might be worth 4th or 5th round pick in my opinion, but he could end up being a steal. I think he ends up on the Ravens.

[JawnyBlaze]

He's the RB I want if we don't get Fournette. I also wouldn't mind mccaffrey in the 2nd, but he's a gimmick player. I'd want foreman as a 1st and 2nd down back to start his career (and can learn to pass block and play 3rd downs when able). 

[Big_Down_Under]

I like Perine if we miss out on 4nette, but thats without knowing foreman could run a 4.45 forty

[TheSpecialJuan]

Damn!

[GoobyPls]

4 hours ago, Catufb85 said:

Lord people do some research... isn't big play threat... check these stats out...

Situation	G	Att	Yards	Avg.	TD	Long	1st	10+	20+
All Plays	11	323	2028	6.28	15	74	98	49	16
1st Half	11	158	903	5.72	6	55	50	22	7
2nd Half/OT	11	165	1125	6.82	9	74	48	27	9
1st Quarter	11	80	430	5.38	3	37	25	13	3
2nd Quarter	11	78	473	6.06	3	55	25	9	4
3rd Quarter	11	83	543	6.54	4	62	24	11	4
4th Quarter	10	79	578	7.32	5	74	24	16	5
Overtime	2	3	4	1.33	0	5	0	0	0
1st Down	11	162	1055	6.51	10	62	26	27	9
2nd Down	11	109	673	6.17	3	55	42	16	5
3rd Down	11	43	267	6.21	2	74	23	5	2
3rd Down, 1-3 To Go	10	31	177	5.71	1	74	20	3	1
3rd Down, 4-6 To Go	4	4	30	7.50	1	19	2	1	0
3rd Down, 7-9 To Go	3	3	15	5.00	0	8	1	0	0
3rd Down, 10+ To Go	5	5	45	9.00	0	24	0	1	1
4th Down	5	9	33	3.67	0	10	7	1	0
Own 1 To 20 Yd Ln	10	35	201	5.74	0	32	8	5	2
Own 21 To 39 Yd Ln	11	93	680	7.31	2	74	32	16	5
Own 40 To Opp 40 Yd Ln	11	78	549	7.04	1	47	27	14	4
Opp 39 To 21 Yd Ln	11	67	395	5.90	4	38	22	11	5
Opp 20 To 1 Yd Ln (RZ)	10	50	203	4.06	8	19	9	3	0
Winning By 15+ Pts	2	6	33	5.50	0	10	2	1	0
Winning By 8-14 Pts	4	21	167	7.95	2	74	6	3	1
Winning By 1-7 Pts	7	68	418	6.15	4	40	21	10	3
Tied	8	43	230	5.35	1	37	12	7	1
Losing By 1-7 Pts	11	140	853	6.09	6	55	43	20	7
Losing By 8-14 Pts	6	34	172	5.06	1	32	8	3	2
Losing By 15+ Pts	4	11	155	14.09	1	62	6	5	2

Toby Gerhart had big runs in college, that didn't make him a big play threat in the NFL.

[Shocker]

The timing and draft position says no for us but McCaffrey is going to be amazing.  I have been sold on him.  Foreman is a project.  

 

[emhoward]

1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

Toby Gerhart had big runs in college, that didn't make him a big play threat in the NFL.

To play a little Devil's advocate (I mostly agree with you) -- if a fast 40 (4.4) doesn't make someone a homerun threat, and a lot of long runs in college doesn't make someone a homerun threat -- what in the world does?