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8 years of no playoffs

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Hoenheim Grand Master

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These are all horrible over-reactions by most of you. You won't know if the Gettleman firing was a bad move until we've played 2-3 seasons without him . If they're all losing seasons and no playoffs then I'll agree with you. But at this point I believe we have the still have the roster to contend for the next couple of years even with a not so great GM, with the combination of pieces Hurney and Gettleman have given to us from the past. 

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1 minute ago, Porn Shop Clerk said:

This season is gonna be ugly.  I'll be the first to eat crow if we win the division or slip into the playoffs as a wild card.

Actually the pieces are already in place for this season.   We will be fine. It is the next 5 season that will be ugly. 

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That doesn't tell the whole picture at all.

Take away the 17-2 season (which was an abnormality) and the Panthers went 26-24-1 under DG, so average. 

That 7-8-1 year was a fluke regarding the standings and anyone argues for DG based on that year is just kidding themselves. 

The team has been wildly inconsistent. I see all these comparison to Belichek and how he runs the Pats, well the Pats also don't go 17-2 one year and then come back and go 6-10 the next. If you're going to run a team like DG does you better have a player that can carry your team to victory like the Pats do when poo starts to hit the fan. While Cam can be that guy, he's not yet.

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13 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

That doesn't tell the whole picture at all.

Take away the 17-2 season (which was an abnormality) and the Panthers went 26-24-1 under DG, so average. 

That 7-8-1 year was a fluke regarding the standings and anyone argues for DG based on that year is just kidding themselves. 

The team has been wildly inconsistent. I see all these comparison to Belichek and how he runs the Pats, well the Pats also don't go 17-2 one year and then come back and go 6-10 the next. If you're going to run a team like DG does you better have a player that can carry your team to victory like the Pats do when poo starts to hit the fan. While Cam can be that guy, he's not yet.

When you have to take away one out of four seasons he was here to make your point, it's not a good point. 

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6 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

That doesn't tell the whole picture at all.

Take away the 17-2 season (which was an abnormality) and the Panthers went 26-24-1 under DG, so average. 

That 7-8-1 year was a fluke regarding the standings and anyone argues for DG based on that year is just kidding themselves. 

The team has been wildly inconsistent. I see all these comparison to Belichek and how he runs the Pats, well the Pats also don't go 17-2 one year and then come back and go 6-10 the next. If you're going to run a team like DG does you better have a player that can carry your team to victory like the Pats do when poo starts to hit the fan. While Cam can be that guy, he's not yet.

You can't take away events that actually happened, I hate when people say stuff like that. People use that arguement against Cam all the time , "take away his MVP season and he's just an average inconsitent mediocre QB."

You have to take everything into account, all seasons, and all factors. The fact is , he got us into a position to get to the 2015 season, you could argue Star and Short were huge factors in us having a good enough pass rush to generate all those turnovers and be one of the best defenses in the NFL that season , which hugely contributed to alot of our wins, as good as Cam was. He did alot of other stuff to im sure to get to that point, it wasn't just just him riding the coat tails of players Hurney drafted.

Gettleman wasn't at fault for all the injuries that occured in 2016, which is a gigantic reason why we lost so many games many of which were very close games. You could argue the worst thing Gettleman did for 2016 is not provide Cam with good enough OTs after getting exposed in the Super Bowl, and shitting the bed with Josh Norman and fielding a couple rookies instead.  You can't blame him for Cam getting injured on that TD run, Luke getting another concussion, or many of the oline injuries simply bad luck, and you can't blame Gettleman for Gano missing the game winner in Denver. If Gano hits that kick we probably go somewhere between 8-8 and 11-5 in my opinion. Would have totally changed the mood of the season and may have had a butterfly affect and possible the players play much differently and some of those injuries dont occur. 

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22 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

These are all horrible over-reactions by most of you. You won't know if the Gettleman firing was a bad move until we've played 2-3 seasons without him . If they're all losing seasons and no playoffs then I'll agree with you. But at this point I believe we have the still have the roster to contend for the next couple of years even with a not so great GM, with the combination of pieces Hurney and Gettleman have given to us from the past. 

IMO, I think this roster is better than 2015. We will be fine this year. Next year though, I have no idea.

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Just now, uncfan888 said:

When you have to take away one out of four seasons he was here to make your point, it's not a good point. 

When that season was out of the ordinary, yeah you take it out of the equation.

It's like when you run a formula 10 times and you only get a good result one time. Outside of that one year we have been mediocre and anyone that says otherwise is arguing with facts.

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This season should be fine. It's our future that has me very concerned. 

Say what you want about there being "no chance" that Hurney is hired full term. But just wait and watch. JR will love having his guy back in the office. 

I'm calling it now and until the day we ink a new GM, Hurney has a very real chance at being our permanent GM. 

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