We can not afford to lose Star Lotulelei

[CRA]

Star is our best DT.  Period.  I hope we keep him. 

[LaChance87]

Beason was coming off a major injury and he had prior experience at olb. Beason, Davis, and Kuechly were both starters to begin the 2012 season (Kuechly at olb), but injury to Beason moved Kuechly to mlb. Kuechly was always guaranteed to be a starter somewhere at LB. Butler won't start unless there's an injury or Star isn't re-signed.

Why add depth to DT in round 1 when we had glaring holes to fill? We could have selected a DT later in the draft.

 

 

Yeah I know, and had Kuechly started at MLB he'd broken Patrick Willis's rookie record for tackles. You're forgetting we had Anderson too, who was playing at a top level, with Davis and Beason. I know there was concern about health for both but baring injury Carolina looked good at LB. And instead of reaching to fill gaps, landed a stud. They took the same approach selecting Butler, and like I said they use a rotation. So although he doesn't have a starter status he will see snaps, and in return the defensive line stays fresh and strong throughout the game.

 

 

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[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

collapsing the pocket from the interior makes literally every other player's job on defense easier, starting at DE radiating out. extremely disruptive DTs are off-and-on the highest paid defensive players in the league for a reason.

e: this is re: "wtf why did we draft butler we already had KK"

[Bj-Monster23]

On 7/20/2017 at 2:14 PM, Car123 said:

The Vernon Butler pick still disappoints me. What a waste of a pick.

You will see the pick pay off this season that's for sure. What some people don't realize is that what if we would've lost Star or KK last season who was going to replace them? Adding Big Vern gave us flexibility in negotiations and if a big injury happens on the line. The sky is the limit for Big Vern this season.

[Davidson Deac II]

Fwiw, we can't afford to lose him.  Unless he wants to much, in which case we won't be able to afford to keep him.  Hopefully Butler plays well enough this year to give us some leverage.  Although with Marty signing the checks, we might end up paying him more than he ask for. 

[panthers55]

On 7/20/2017 at 2:20 PM, Car123 said:

Not saying he won't be a solid player but selecting Butler in round 1 when we already have KK is foolish.

At the time we picked Butler, keeping KK was very much in doubt. Picking Vernon was part insurance in the event we lost KK this year and a push to KK to sign since we had his replacement already.

[RumHam]

I'm sure Hurney has Brenson Buckner on speed dial

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

I'm 90% sure we won't extend Star. I have a friend who played for the Panthers and is friends with Hurney. If Hurney shares the opinion of my friend we won't be extending Star. Right or wrong (the opinion) I have a feeling we extend Norwell, Davis and Olsen and Star is the odd man out.

 

 

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The only extensions that make sense at this time are Star and Norwell.  Too bad DG knew this, but JR and Hurney don't.

[AggieLean]

1 hour ago, thefuzz said:

The only extensions that make sense at this time are Star and Norwell.  Too bad DG knew this, but JR and Hurney don't.

You don't know this for certain. Apparently, Gettleman was working on a deal for TD, so it's very possible TD could've gotten an extension. So, it looks like Gettleman was going to extend Star, Norwell, TD, and Turner. According to you, that doesn't make sense. We also don't even know for certain if he had any plans of resigning Star or Norwell.

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3 hours ago, stbugs said:

I'm 90% sure we won't extend Star. I have a friend who played for the Panthers and is friends with Hurney. If Hurney shares the opinion of my friend we won't be extending Star. Right or wrong (the opinion) I have a feeling we extend Norwell, Davis and Olsen and Star is the odd man out.

 

 

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nice man, i was just thinking about how awesome the days of absolute crap in the middle of our d-line were

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anyway if he gets paid big by some other team i hope the front office is able to funnel the cap savings into the statue/retirement ceremony/one day contract fund

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, AggieLean said:

You don't know this for certain. Apparently, Gettleman was working on a deal for TD, so it's very possible TD could've gotten an extension. So, it looks like Gettleman was going to extend Star, Norwell, TD, and Turner. According to you, that doesn't make sense. We also don't even know for certain if he had any plans of resigning Star or Norwell.

You extend rising/younger players before aging/slowing players who still have time on their deals.  I'm sure that DG was working on a deal for TD....he was likely told to do so from the top.

And no, when it comes to "football moves", touching Greg's this year makes no sense, unless we didn't have players that needed signing...but we do.

We give all of these players extensions....and in 2 years, things will be absurdly tight again, right in the middle of us starting to extend Cam again.