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Marty Hurney comments on team depth today on WFNZ

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Snake Grand Master

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2 hours ago, Basbear said:

I member Matt Willig.

 

 

You can not have depth on every position group, but this darn near close. Minus backup LT, safety, the other groups are well stocked. If you want to nick pick the deep side #3 TE, #5 WR #4 DT #3 outside CB, but that's extremely unfair. 

Even if a TE goes down we have more than enough WRs to make up for production. We really do have crazy depth. 

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8 hours ago, bull123 said:

looks like a ton of hurney haters out here...DG obviously did a great job for us, but I personally never got over losing Josh...losing Smitty was bad too, but losing Josh started the sinking of our season LY

Here is the thing about Josh... he spent most of his time here in Rivera's dog house and when he finally had a season of success as a starter, he began making public pronouncements about wanting to be paid like a QB... not a CB... a QB.

Panthers were never going to tie that much money up in a CB for a long term deal.  It would have been foolish and counterproductive to building an organization capable of winning on a consistent basis... something the Panthers ownership supposedly wanted.

DG tagged Josh guaranteeing him a top 5 payday, all he had to do was sign on the dotted line.

Meanwhile Josh had hired an amature agent to represent him in his contract negotiations.  

We can speculate all day what actually transpired between DG and this amature agent.

However, at the end of the day Josh claimed to be surprised when the tag was pulled by DG.  If Josh was actually unaware of how badly negotiations were going, badly enough for DG to pull his offer, then that should rest at the feet of Josh's agent (an agent that was immediately fired by Josh).  

Should DG have pulled the tag?  Probably not based on the outcome of last season.  However, we shouldn't act like Josh's attitude and his agent didn't play a major role in the breakdown of contract negotiations.

Steve Smith should be an open book by now, he had to go, he wasn't about to hand over the team leadership role to Cam.  Steve was a big fish in a little pond until Cam arrived on the scene and then he became an impediment to the transition of the Panthers to a new era, a changing of the guard. 

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8 minutes ago, Snake said:

Even if a TE goes down we have more than enough WRs to make up for production. We really do have crazy depth. 

I concur i do fall for some training camp MVP reports. Manhertz looks like a future #2 and a solid current #3.(thanks for cutting him saints, lol)  I'm not going to put bad voodoo on stating what would happen if ______ goes down, just he's very very very important. The WRs past the first four, all seem to be equal talent. IF not for funch and KB, id welcome Garrett to fill the "big" WR role. Others got speed and everyone is young, I bet at least two lands on the PS. 

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18 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Here is the thing about Josh... he spent most of his time here in Rivera's dog house and when he finally had a season of success as a starter, he began making public pronouncements about wanting to be paid like a QB... not a CB... a QB.

Panthers were never going to tie that much money up in a CB for a long term deal.  It would have been foolish and counterproductive to building an organization capable of winning on a consistent basis... something the Panthers ownership supposedly wanted.

DG tagged Josh guaranteeing him a top 5 payday, all he had to do was sign on the dotted line.

Meanwhile Josh had hired an amature agent to represent him in his contract negotiations.  

We can speculate all day what actually transpired between DG and this amature agent.

However, at the end of the day Josh claimed to be surprised when the tag was pulled by DG.  If Josh was actually unaware of how badly negotiations were going, badly enough for DG to pull his offer, then that should rest at the feet of Josh's agent (an agent that was immediately fired by Josh).  

Should DG have pulled the tag, probably not based on the outcome of last season.  However, we shouldn't act like Josh didn't play a major role in the breakdown of contract negotiations.

Steve Smith should be an open book by now, he had to go, he wasn't about to hand over the team leadership role to Cam.  Steve was a big fish in a little pond until Cam arrived on the scene and then he became an impediment to the transition of the Panthers to a new era, a changing of the guard. 

Honestly, I believe this happened. Once all the back and forth agent to Dave BSing wore down(weeks, days). DAVE said this is my best and final offer 12 million per over 4/5 years with 53% guaranteed. The amateur agents laughed and said " We will not go lower than 15 per with 65% in guarantees" Secretly telling Josh don't worry this how its done, we'll act hard and tough but in the end take the deal after time pasting and hoping Dave increases the offer. Dave said fine and slept on it, woke up the next day and started plan B without Josh. Looked over the big board, talked to the scouts/coaches, and looked at the future deals. Talked to the big cat with plan B done, pulled the tag and moved on. 

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Marty never fielded a Panthers team with this much depth... ever in his ten years as GM.
In fact, other than his propensity to overpay players, Hurney's greatest weakness is likely his inability to field teams with even moderate depth.

I mean I may be in right at summa y'all are just downright mean and negative just to be negative he hasn't done anything yet for you to even harp on him let's let him do what he does because we are not going to be able to control anything all this negativity is making this site very very much NOT fun. Can we actually wait for him to screw up before we're so down his throat


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NanuqoftheNorth Grand Master

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2 hours ago, darrybear said:

he hasn't done anything yet

What do you mean "he hasn't done anything yet"?

How long have you been a Panthers fan?

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Can we actually wait for him to screw up before we're so down his throat

Hurney was given ten years to figure out how to be a competent GM and failed.

How many more years do you suggest we give him? 

Marty never sniffed another job offer as a GM until a few weeks ago when he was rehired by the same old fool who had just fired the most successful GM in Panthers franchise history.

DG was more successful in 4 years than Hurney was in 10.

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all this negativity is making this site very very much NOT fun.

You think this is miserable? You should have been here the last time MH was calling the shots.

If you missed it, you're going to be in for a rude awakening.

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8 hours ago, AggieLean said:

Ahh, another thread where all the posters who used to get on posters for whining about JNo, Smitty, or basically anything wrong with the team,  cry and whine about GMan. The hypocrisy, oh the hypocrisy.

Anyways, solid interview but Hurney

hi i'm on the internet and i find that whataboutism is a useful argument

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