First Things First Cam Newton Discussion

[Hoenheim]

Basically Nick sides with Cam and Chris says that he'd take the other 3 QBs in our division before Cam. Chris calls Cam elite but everything else he says is negative. Seems convinced that Cam will never have good accuracy and the tired old "cant play from the neck up" comment. Have any thoughts on this? Thought I'd make a post that's not about last game or the coming game specifically. The best point Nick made was that comparing Matt Ryan and Cam's career, Cam has accomplished alot more, alot faster that Matt Ryan with much less talent on his team. One of the most salient quotes of the discussion was imagine if Cam had Julio Jones instead of Kelvin Benjamin for last few years? Hell, I'd go even further and say imagine if Cam had both Julio Jones and Kyle Shannahan instead of KB and Shula 

 

[*FreeFua*]

It's so frustrating that they draft someone like Cam and then give him f'n Shula.

You buy this suped-up sports car only to leave it parked in the garage 

If the Saints axe Payton id LOVE to have him as an OC

 

[The_Light_Brigade]

I've said it before. 

Not on the Huddle. 

The Panthers will do to Cam what Philly did to McNabb.

[TPanther920]

To have a transcendent talent like Cam Newton and to know we are wasting it is almost tragic. Another version of the Dan Marino story. Eventually the Panthers organization will crush Cam physically and spiritually. What a waste.

[JawnyBlaze]

Drafting cam then anchoring him with Shula is like buying a Ferrari and swapping out the engine for a pinto's engine. 

[trucpfan]

He has extremely good points and he's probably not a huddle member the secrets out to the masses 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

7 minutes ago, NeedSumD said:

So 6th year, Playoffs 3 years, SB 1 year.  Not sure anybody remember who the OC was those years.  I cant remember and my memory is poo.  So 50% playoff appearances with Shula as his OC.  And I know in spite of Shula not because of Shula.  We play good Cam is god we play bad its Shula fault.   I wonder if most people think if Matt Ryan has a poor game do they blame everyone but Matt Ryan?  I know, I know Cam doesn't have poor games just poor play calls. Cant wait until we win a game this year.

give it a rest

[theDIRTYcode2]

5 minutes ago, NeedSumD said:

I wonder if most people think if Matt Ryan has a poor game do they blame everyone but Matt Ryan?  I know, I know Cam doesn't have poor games just poor play calls. Cant wait until we win a game this year.

2015 - KS is a fugging disease, and Matt has regressed.

2016 - KS is a fugging God, and Matt has no equal.

Honestly we were more defensive about Vick. It was everyone else's fault until it wasn't. We are pretty level headed about Matt. With a good supporting cast he's gonna be good. With a great supporting cast he's gonna be great.

[Jangler]

breaking news....2017 some people have faith....some do not.

[cptx]

48 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

give it a rest

They are trying really hard to make some sort of point, I just know it.

[TheSpecialJuan]

2 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

Basically Nick sides with Cam and Chris says that he'd take the other 3 QBs in our division before Cam. Chris calls Cam elite but everything else he says is negative. Seems convinced that Cam will never have good accuracy and the tired old "cant play from the neck up" comment. Have any thoughts on this? Thought I'd make a post that's not about last game or the coming game specifically. The best point Nick made was that comparing Matt Ryan and Cam's career, Cam has accomplished alot more, alot faster that Matt Ryan with much less talent on his team. One of the most salient quotes of the discussion was imagine if Cam had Julio Jones instead of Kelvin Benjamin for last few years? Hell, I'd go even further and say imagine if Cam had both Julio Jones and Kyle Shannahan instead of KB and Shula 

 

dumb

[VGcollector]

first things first RIP uncle phil.

 

Crazy how low people are on cam, not this this season even his MVP season people were saying rather have palmer. Now you would rather have winston? If anything is a poor version of cam? smh i usually dont like nick wright but he is right on this one.

[Icege]

4 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

 

 

Why does this man look like Tom Green

[Darvinsun]

3 hours ago, NeedSumD said:

So 6th year, Playoffs 3 years, SB 1 year.  Not sure anybody remember who the OC was those years.  I cant remember and my memory is poo.  So 50% playoff appearances with Shula as his OC.  And I know in spite of Shula not because of Shula.  We play good Cam is god we play bad its Shula fault.   I wonder if most people think if Matt Ryan has a poor game do they blame everyone but Matt Ryan?  I know, I know Cam doesn't have poor games just poor play calls. Cant wait until we win a game this year.

Nobody says that Cam does not have poor games..What we do say is in defense of our QB since he is blamed and treated poorly since he came to the NFL...Out of all number 1 draft picks he has been the most criticized in spite of the success he has had on a team with the least talent on the offensive side of the ball..starting from the coach all the way down to SP teams. I see flaws in his games at times but choose not to to rag on him bc for one he is not perfect he does more good than bad..For 2 he has enough people casting spotlight on every little posible flaw he might have ..Last week he missed 2 opportunities and yes they were easy opportunities but we did not loose he did just enough for us to squeak by. The guy is just coming off shoulder surgery and literally is 3rd game for him without preseason...Cam usually starts slow anyway..takesmore games to get him in synch...The defense is doing there job while Cam gets in synch. Hopefully Cam can return the favor later in the season for when it truly will count. As for Shula and Rivera what is their excuse for their continuous screw ups which should not be happening to a coach..At least Cam has fatigue and pain to use for an excuse.