Superstar Dak not so much without Elliott..

[LinvilleGorge]

Swap Dak and Cam and you could probably swap the records too. Dak is a JAG. The guy has looked like straight trash without Elliott. I thought all along that Elliott was the driving force of that offense, but I didn't think that Dak would be THIS bad without him. I thought he'd look average. He'd have to play A LOT better to look average.

[csx]

Only Newton (or whoever your teams QB is) gets excuses whike every other QB gets blamed.

Our guy laid eggs his second season too. With Smith and Chud and Gross.

[LinvilleGorge]

Cam "laid an egg" in his second year? He threw for almost 3900 yards. Dak is on pace to come well short of that. Hell, if his post-Zeke stats continue he may not surpass 3000.

[csx]

33 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Cam "laid an egg" in his second year? He threw for almost 3900 yards. Dak is on pace to come well short of that. Hell, if his post-Zeke stats continue he may not surpass 3000.

This thread is about having bad games. Laid Eggs would suggest he played bad games which he did. Two with no y

TDs  and multiple interceptions. Another with no tds and 1 interception. One of the 0 td int games included 2 fumbles. That is what I ment. Just look at the game stats.

Young qbs have terrible games. Thats how it goes 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, csx said:

This thread is about having bad games. Laid Eggs would suggest he played bad games which he did. Two with no y

TDs  and multiple interceptions. Another with no tds and 1 interception. One of the 0 td int games included 2 fumbles. That is what I ment. Just look at the game stats.

Young qbs have terrible games. Thats how it goes 

It's not a coincidence that these bad games coincide with Elliott's suspension. Zeke Elliott is that star of that offense. Dak Prescott is the JAG that hands him the ball. 

[csx]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's not a coincidence that these bad games coincide with Elliott's suspension. Zeke Elliott is that star of that offense. Dak Prescott is the JAG that hands him the ball. 

Ok. Cam had his bad games with all his best players. That's what I was trying to say. Id say thats as much a team problem as a Prescott problem.

I'm not trying to rip Newton but offer some perspective.

[WOW!!]

13 minutes ago, csx said:

Ok. Cam had his bad games with all his best players. That's what I was trying to say. Id say thats as much a team problem as a Prescott problem.

I'm not trying to rip Newton but offer some perspective.

Cam also broke every QB record in football his 1st 2 years while taking the worst offense in history the year before he got here to top 10 his 1st 2 years.. 

So while you're trying to cover for the crowning and over the top love fest Dak has gotten for falling into the perfect situation for a rookie QB.. You might want to reinvest time into looking over Cam's history here...

[WOW!!]

2 hours ago, Rags said:

The Cowboys are a lot like us offensively except without a good defense and somehow have Worse Personnel. 

I'm not saying Dak is Cam, or even close, but the Cowboys offense is trash. Dez Bryant, an Old Jason Witten and Nothing Else.

Their run game has no threats without Zeke. Jason Garrett looks more.lost than Eli after he throws a pick. Terrance Williams and Cole Beasly are JAGs that don't really thrive from the coverage Dez gets. And then they draft another Cole Beasly in Switzer and that's the only offensive weapon they drafted. Travis Frederick and Zack Martin are still good, but Collins and Cooper have been Really Bad replacing Free and Leary, and Smith has either been playing hurt or out so their O-Line is far from "elite" anymore. There's almost nothing redeemable on that offense and it's hard to imagine any QB succeeding with that unit.

Y'all get mad when people bash Cam without really analyzing anything. It's fair to do that for Dak too.

This is some Bullshit!! Half the league would kill for that oline.. And nobody was calling those weapons trash when they were winning.. Dez Byrant trash?? Whatever!!! He'd be the number 1 WR here.. Hell Terance Williams would start here as well..

[pantherclaw]

Only as good as the line that plays in front.

[mcdougal]

I see the morons are out in full force after Thanksgiving.Dak fell into the perfect situation? Yep. That is why the Cowboys were picking in the top 3 of the draft the year prior to his arrival...A defense that can't even hold on for mere seconds against any competent QB and an OL that while very good in run blocking is overrated as hell in pass blocking.

But then again, this is the Huddle. The same Huddle that still believes that Russell Wilson is just "lucky," that Newton also fell in the "perfect" situation in Carolina while insisting the Cutlers, Bradford, and Carrs of the world are really elite QBs just placed in bad situations.

 

[toldozer]

7 minutes ago, mcdougal said:

I see the morons are out in full force after Thanksgiving.Dak fell into the perfect situation? Yep. That is why the Cowboys were picking in the top 3 of the draft the year prior to his arrival...A defense that can't even hold on for mere seconds against any competent QB and an OL that while very good in run blocking is overrated as hell in pass blocking.

But then again, this is the Huddle. The same Huddle that still believes that Russell Wilson is just "lucky," that Newton also fell in the "perfect" situation in Carolina while insisting the Cutlers, Bradford, and Carrs of the world are really elite QBs just placed in bad situations.

 

1 - Russell Wilson has a horseshoe wedged so far up his ass it'll never come down. 

2- I don't think anyone thinks Cam fell into the perfect situation... Cam makes this situation 50% of the time (the defense takes care of the other 50%)

3 - who the fug says that about cutler, Bradford and assuming David carr?

[backINblack28]

Dak is also getting credit for not having his best teammates around him.  People are writing off bad performances because he has to deal with 3rd string replacement level at LT.  Byron Bell.  Cam didn't get that same credit for dealing with 3rd string replacement level Byron Bell being his STARTING tackle for 4 years/HALF of his career.  2 of those years were playoffs..

[tiger7_88]

8 hours ago, Rags said:

Terrance Williams and Cole Beasly are JAGs that don't really thrive from the coverage Dez gets.

Williams over 4 years has averaged around 45 receptions, 750 yds, and 5 TDs per year, averaging over 15 yds per reception.  That ain't bad for a #2.

Beasley, over 5 years, has averaged near the same as a #3 slot-possession guy, averaging over 10 yds per reception.  Last year he caught almost 100 passes.

If by "JAG" you mean that they ain't #1 receivers, you're right.  Otherwise, they are quality options at #2 and #3 on their WR depth chart.

[Panthera onca]

Lots of closet cowboys fans on the huddle. Disgusting.