Hurney vs DG

[iamhubby1]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rosen is talking about staying in school to avoid being drafted by the Browns.

 

    IMO, that is fancy talk from a QB that could not play in their Bowl Game. 

 

    If I were the Browns. I would tell him to stay in school, and prove he can play a whole season, before he tries to dictate where he goes.

 

    It is unfortunate that Rosin has concussion problems. And they may be temporary, or not. But to be a top QB prospect, they are not a good look.

[dldove77]

58 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Please do.  Hopefully in a few years you'll finally realize how foolish it was to hire a mediocre sports writer as an NFL GM... much less to rehire him after ten years of mediocrity and failure.

Hurney was the GM who put together the team that went to 2003 Super Bowl, no? And 2005 NFC title game. Worked with Bobby Beathard before that. Also hired Rivera and drafted some really great players. Certainly wasn’t ten years of mediocrity and failure.

Give credit where due. 

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 hour ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Please do.  Hopefully in a few years you'll finally realize how foolish it was to hire a mediocre sports writer as an NFL GM... much less to rehire him after ten years of mediocrity and failure.

Nah you will realize how foolshing you are fake fan.

So the bet for $100 is on.

 

@Jeremy Igo pls pin this thread for the record.

[Mr. Scot]

24 minutes ago, dldove77 said:

Hurney was the GM who put together the team that went to 2003 Super Bowl, no? And 2005 NFC title game. Worked with Bobby Beathard before that. Also hired Rivera and drafted some really great players. Certainly wasn’t ten years of mediocrity and failure.

Give credit where due. 

How many good seasons did we have after 2005?

[GoobyPls]

1 hour ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Yupperz. Drafting a QB with 2 concussions in College is how you want to start your tenure. C'mon Goob.

 

   

 

    

Please enlighten us who should he draft

 

Who should he pick over the consensus number 1 QB in the draft 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

54 minutes ago, dldove77 said:

Hurney was the GM who put together the team that went to 2003 Super Bowl, no? And 2005 NFC title game. Worked with Bobby Beathard before that. Also hired Rivera and drafted some really great players. Certainly wasn’t ten years of mediocrity and failure.

Give credit where due. 

I'll give credit where due.  Hurney was close to a sure thing in the first round of the draft (the easiest round to find a productive draft pick) when he wasn't attempting to trade the pick away . 

Thank goodness no one was willing to take Hurney up on his offer to trade our future first round pick for Pickle the year prior to Cam entering the draft.

Carolina having the first pick to select Cam that next year meant only one thing... Hurney had fielded the worst team in the league the previous season.

[jfra78]

2 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Dave Gettleman literally has a top 2 pick locked up.

Hurney’s picking #32.

No doubt Gettleman will have a better draft class period.

Exactly , if Hurney outdrafts gentlemen, then gettleman is a horrible drafter

[iamhubby1]

14 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Please enlighten us who should he draft

 

Who should he pick over the consensus number 1 QB in the draft 

 

    I'll tell you who I won't draft to lead my franchise at #1. A QB with 2 concussions during his college career.

 

      Are you really going to hitch your wagon to this guy?

[Cpt slay a ho]

They both sucked in some key areas.....so yeah

[DaveThePanther2008]

1 hour ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

I'll give credit where due.  Hurney was close to a sure thing in the first round of the draft (the easiest round to find a productive draft pick) when he wasn't attempting to trade the pick away . 

Thank goodness no one was willing to take Hurney up on his offer to trade our future first round pick for Pickle the year prior to Cam entering the draft.

Carolina having the first pick to select Cam that next year meant only one thing... Hurney had fielded the worst team in the league the previous season.

Let's not forget that JR was pinching pennies in 2010.  The Player Agreement wasn't signed and JR wasn't shelling out any dough for anyone.   2010 is more on JR than Hurney.

Hurney is not my choice for GM by any stretch but to blame him for 2010 is absurd.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

40 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Hurney is not my choice for GM by any stretch but to blame him for 2010 is absurd.

Don't recall many of the players cut during the union negotiations resurfacing on other teams and amounting to much.

In other words, the Panthers were already on a downward spiral thanks to Hurney's ineptness as GM and if all Marty amounts to is a "Yes Man" for JR, he is not much of a GM to begin with.  

Yes, JR had Hurney cut ties with several fan favorites on the downhill side of their careers and that expedited the inevitable downward spiral of the organization.

However, taking Hurney's entire body of work into consideration, all ten years of it, there should be little doubt Hurney's performance was substandard.  By substandard I mean, a total of 3 winning seasons in 10 years under Marty Hurney as GM.

 

 

[DaveThePanther2008]

7 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Don't recall many of the players cut during the union negotiations resurfacing on other teams and amounting to much.

In other words, the Panthers were already on a downward spiral thanks to Hurney's ineptness as GM and if all Marty amounts to is a "Yes Man" for JR, he is not much of a GM to begin with.  

Yes, JR had Hurney cut ties with several fan favorites on the downhill side of their careers and that expedited the inevitable downward spiral of the organization. However, taking Hurney's entire body of work into consideration, all ten years of it, there should be little doubt Hurney's performance was substandard.  By substandard I mean, a total of 3 winning seasons in 10 years under Marty Hurney as GM.

 

 

If you look at just the records.  I would agree.  2004 and 2006 we were riddled with injuries, if my rustic brain remembers correctly.   And 7-9 was our worst record prior to 2010.   We cannot place the entire blame on Hurney for the record.   Just as we cannot give DG full credit for our playoff record in the past 5 years.  4 out of 5 years in the playoffs.  Not too shabby.   I think Hurney has as much to do playerwise as DG did.  DG was better a picking the DTs (What were the two DTs Hurney drafted Mclain and Fua?) 

Look I am by NO MEANS wanting to keep Hurney.  I think there are far better options out there and his track record on 2nd round picks was absolutely terrible.

[CPantherKing]

Giants will have a ton of success with a GM who is despised by the top players in the NFL. His own star players led a revolt to have him tossed off the team.

If you want a GM who will throw away draft picks to build a team with 5 draft picks a year and fail to secure top talent in free agency, then Gettleman is your man. Good luck to the Giants rebuilding a depleted core with a GM that no agent or talented player wants to deal with in their career.

Gettleman does not have the luxury of leaning on and coasting with a core of players and coaches to carry the team like he did with the Panthers for 4 seasons. The same core that eventually had Gettleman tossed from the team.

Be thankful Hurney built the core of this team that carried the Panthers through the Gettleman years. It is not like Hurney was left a talented core of young players to lean on when replacing the current leaders of the team in the near future.

Was it not obvious the struggles the Panthers OL and offensive leadership had with Kalil and Olsen out making Cam carry all the offensive calls? Is it not obvious the CBs are the glaring weakness of the defense?

Gettleman left the Panthers with no young leadership to replace the current leaders in the near future. While Turner, Norwell, Star, and KK are good players, they are not leaders on the field capable of running their units like a Cam, Gross, Kalil, Olsen, Luke, Peppers, TD, and Johnson.

[Ace_Aladdin]

43 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Don't recall many of the players cut during the union negotiations resurfacing on other teams and amounting to much.

In other words, the Panthers were already on a downward spiral thanks to Hurney's ineptness as GM and if all Marty amounts to is a "Yes Man" for JR, he is not much of a GM to begin with.  

Yes, JR had Hurney cut ties with several fan favorites on the downhill side of their careers and that expedited the inevitable downward spiral of the organization.

However, taking Hurney's entire body of work into consideration, all ten years of it, there should be little doubt Hurney's performance was substandard.  By substandard I mean, a total of 3 winning seasons in 10 years under Marty Hurney as GM.

 

 

Yo why are you hiding I want confirmation on the bet.

Or are you scared that you will be wrong about DG.