Evolution

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

Oh, if evolution were but a simple, straight and unbothered line --- amoebae to homo extremis in 30 generations and lasers by day 5.

Evolution has never been about the leaps and bounds but by the dogged trial and error mixed with an unwillingness to give up on tomorrow.

We've had a lot of growing pains (and a lot of serious injuries to boot) but somehow the team put together 11 winning performances, some against some very strong play-off teams. We may fall flat at the start of the post season, we may stall out somewhere along the way, or we might just hoist a trophy in our battered, weary hands at the end of all this.

I've got faith in them, I still believe, how about you?

And if we look bad again next season?

How long are we supposed to give them to "evolve"?

Do we want to be like the Bengals?

[Saca312]

Lol even to start off all they added with CMC was using him like Fozzy.

This whole year’s offense was more the same except this time having Cam checkdown more. Pathetic really.

[Panthers8969]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

So in about a million years or so we'll have a competent offense?

Corrrrreeeeeeect.

 

anyone who believed Shula would evolve bc we added one player was a fool though. The guys always been a moron and, shocker, he still is

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, mjligon said:

Wow. The numbers are just salt in the wound.

We are in dire need an overhaul on the offensive side of the ball.

Staff, players, etc.

Mike Shula will still be offensive coordinator next year.

Why?

Because Ron Rivera will still be head coach next year.

[CarolinaSamurai]

1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

Mike Shula will still be offensive coordinator next year.

Why?

Because Ron Rivera will still be head coach next year.

Don't be so sure. Everyone is under the assumption the status quo will be kept. Guess what new owners make decisions different than old ones. There is no guarantee this team will be anywhere near what it is now.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, CarolinaSamurai said:

Don't be so sure. Everyone is under the assumption the status quo will be kept. Guess what new owners make decisions different than old ones. There is no guarantee this team will be anywhere near what it is now.

If you want to hire a new coach, you need to get it done before free agency starts.  That's in March.

Hire a new GM?  Same thing, and the draft is in April.

New ownership isn't likely to be in place before training camp starts, much less the offseason stuff.

Like it or not, we have at least one more year of Ron Rivera coaching a roster that was put together by Marty Hurney.

Nothing's changing till after next season.

[Saca312]

In all fairness to Shula, this offense did show life with Samuel and CMC more involved. While you can question Samuel’s hands, his route running and ability to gain separation is something this offense hasn’t seen in a long time. Without him - or anyone that can separate for that matter - Shula can only do so much, and that goes for Cam too.

He has no one to scheme or work with now, but even then he has to adapt and actually be more creative than he has been thus far.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you want to hire a new coach, you need to get it done before free agency starts.  That's in March.

Hire a new GM?  Same thing, and the draft is in April.

New ownership isn't likely to be in place before training camp starts, much less the offseason stuff.

Like it or not, we have at least one more year of Ron Rivera coaching a roster that was put together by Marty Hurney.

Nothing's changing till after next season.

4 teams finished the season with a better record than the panthers. If new ownership came in tomorrow they wouldn't be getting rid of Rivera and company.  There's this myth going around that it's hard to win in the NFL and a lot of people get sucked into believing it.  

[AviationMX]

it's more like the de-evolution of the Huddle. 

Is it possible that losing when we had a chance to lock up a division title has unnerved everyone?

I really believe coaches and players are thinking they have one game left and they might as well leave all out there this sunday...it may not be a win but it won't be like last week...

[CarolinaSamurai]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

If you want to hire a new coach, you need to get it done before free agency starts.  That's in March.

Hire a new GM?  Same thing, and the draft is in April.

New ownership isn't likely to be in place before training camp starts, much less the offseason stuff.

Like it or not, we have at least one more year of Ron Rivera coaching a roster that was put together by Marty Hurney.

Nothing's changing till after next season.

Hurney is interim. With a new owner he could get a permanent one and yes hire him late into the off-season. There's no telling how a successful franchise is sold speed wise. It's almost always struggling ones. This is uncharted waters so every time table is out of the window. Make no mistake there is a very real possibility of changes happening way sooner than usual. Could not be as well but again this is not the norm. We have no president, interim GM, and not much front office staff. It would be easy for a new owner to change things and record alone wouldn't prevent that. Remember JR is patient the new owner might not be

[jfra78]

I don't understand why everyone thinks evolution of an offense takes time.  If you bring in a new Head Coach/ Offensive Coordinator, usually everyone is on the same page by mid season.  The problem isn't the offense evolving, it's the coaching evolving that is a problem.

[The Natural]

By no means am I a Shula apologist but I don't think it's fair to pin the offensive struggles soley on him this season. The injuries we've sustained on that side of the ball have been huge.  

[luke nukem]

3 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Oh, if evolution were but a simple, straight and unbothered line --- amoebae to homo extremis in 30 generations and lasers by day 5.

Evolution has never been about the leaps and bounds but by the dogged trial and error mixed with an unwillingness to give up on tomorrow.

We've had a lot of growing pains (and a lot of serious injuries to boot) but somehow the team put together 11 winning performances, some against some very strong play-off teams. We may fall flat at the start of the post season, we may stall out somewhere along the way, or we might just hoist a trophy in our battered, weary hands at the end of all this.

I've got faith in them, I still believe, how about you?

I want to believe

[JARROD]

1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

In all fairness to Shula, this offense did show life with Byrd and CMC more involved. You cant even question Byrd’s hands, his route running and ability to gain separation is something this offense hasn’t seen in a long time. Without him - or anyone that can separate for that matter - Shula can only do so much, and that goes for Cam too.

He has no one to scheme or work with now, but even then he has to adapt and actually be more creative than he has been thus far.

Fixed.