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Jarvis Landry Sunmed Up In Two Tweets.


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7 minutes ago, Chairman Wow said:

Jarvis Landry finished the season ranked 108th in yards per catch at 8.8. 

To put that into context, the ONLY wide receiver with a worse yards per catch this season was Cole Beasley.

This was not an aberration. Landry has a career yards per catch average of 10.1...horrible for a wide receiver.

He is strictly a possession receiver. Nothing more.  

Imagine if he had to play on the outside against the #1 CB's. Those numbers would take a huge dip.

Sorry im not paying a guy top 5 WR money if he can't swim with the sharks and be a deep threat.

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9 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

just do it and spend a zillion bucks on a big name free agent wide receiver.  just do it once so everybody will shut the fug up about it.

Then what do we do when we are stuck in cap hell on offense because one WR is taking up 14mil in space and we cant upgrade at other skill positions?

 

Im all for spending money on a WR, but Landry is not that guy. This WR FA class doesn't have a true #1 WR worth breaking the bank for.

If we want a true #1 WR we should be calling up Cleveland for Gordon.

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I don't think Landry is as bad as @Saca312 says,  and in a way I feel he is just a victim of bad offensive efficiency as a whole,  and questionable QB play.  As such I can't say that he's worse than any other top slot receiver.  He produceS at a nice slot receiver level (even adjusted for overuse),  has hands,  and is tough.  That being said,  I think that within our offense that I feel a more dynamic, faster,  explosive guy may be a better fit,  if just not outright better in the long run.  But even though I believe Landry is far from this bad, poor receiver like Saca has tried to sell us (while simultaneously trying to laud Jamison Crowder as Landry's superior),  I heartily laugh at the thought of him being a WR1 like @WOW!! believes,  able to carry an offense when times get rough. He is too slow and simply not as explosive.  His YPC is just terrible.  Then when you add in the fact that he's about to be paid like a top 10 receiver,  I can't see any value whatsoever.  It's a bad deal,  especially for a cash-strapped team with holes that need patching. 

Landry is not a WR1 in any sense if the word. His play,  his game,  and his stats prove it,  but he's a good slot receiver, regardless of some third stat used to paint him in a bad light. 

Edit: Summing up most receivers in two tweets,  much less one that has been in a situation as Landry,  is ludicrous as well.  LOL

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2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

He is overrated. His career average is 7.0 yards per target. Funchess is 7.3 yards per target even with a horrific 2016. In 2017 Funchess was 7.6. Our beloved KB, the slow fat guy, for his Carolina career was 7.7 yards per target.

Landry is a high volume guy, but not a real productive guy. I don’t want to touch him based on his contract demands.

I stated he’s going to get overpaid, but I’m still not seeing the correlation to being overrated? What and who are we comparing him to ? He’s still a top slot guy, and still ranks imo top 20 among wrs 

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24 minutes ago, Chairman Wow said:

Jarvis Landry finished the season ranked 108th in yards per catch at 8.8. 

To put that into context, the ONLY wide receiver with a worse yards per catch this season was Cole Beasley.

This was not an aberration. Landry has a career yards per catch average of 10.1...horrible for a wide receiver.

He is strictly a possession receiver. Nothing more.  

Well when you have an offense scared to throw down field...

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35 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

It's not overrated to put up over 1100 receiving yards in 2 consecutive years. Nor is having over 4,000 career receiving yards in 4 seasons. I also wouldn't listen to anything Saca has to say about wide receivers.

Name his amount of targets with that lmao.

I’d be scared if he didn’t surpass 1000 yards with how much he’s thrown to.

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23 minutes ago, Trill OG said:

If he played on the outside like the true #1 WR's do every game, there is no way he puts up those numbers. He gets to play in space and not see the #1 CB every play. Not fair to put him amongst the best in the NFL, if he isn't actually playing against the best.

Saying that he is a great at what he does, which is play the slot WR.

He’s moved around, and does see some teams #1 cb depending on scheme, top slot guy in the leauge and top 15-20 WR in the leauge. Due to how FA is nowadays he’ll get overpaid 

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1 minute ago, stbugs said:

Parker and Stills combined for 115 receptions compared to Landry’s 112. They had 1517 yards compared to 987 for Landry.

Look at Welker, Edelman and other slot WRs who had 100+ receptions and none of them ever got close to 8.8 yards per reception. That might be the historical worst yards per reception for over 80 catches.

He’s not impressive to me, just not productive per target or per reception, however you want to look at it. He’s going to get $10M per season and I wouldn’t go anywhere near that. 

10 mil a year, lol he is going to get 13 at the least. He is the best WR on the market based on his production, so he will likely be overpaid for his services. Which is why I don't he is even on our radar.

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12 minutes ago, stbugs said:

As of right now, we have no WRs besides Funchess. I wouldn't give up Funchess for Landry, I think Funchess has a higher potential ceiling. That said, if we can give Byrd and Samuel healthy, I might prefer both of them as well and use the savings on LT Solder or DE Ansah or CB Johnson/Butler or heck, resign Norwell.

I wouldn't trade for Landry and his contract demands are too much. Keep Byrd/Samuel as our speed options and draft a WR with a well-defined route tree. Spend FA money on Norwell and help in the secondary.

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