A chance that Norwell stays?

[Snake]

51 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Voth has previously shot down any suggestions of tagging Norwell.

If we do indeed keep him, I don't think that's going to be how it happens.

Any way we go, we're talking about a lot of money tied up in our guards.

Not a bad thing when there the best in the NFL. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, thefuzz said:

I agree, to an extent.  But our run game has been bad since 15...now maybe it was totally on scheme and predictability, but again...lot of money going to "run blocking" O linemen, when our run game has been awful.

Stew has been a shadow of himself for awhile now. His burst has been gone. CMC took awhile to get acclimated to the NFL game. We need a new power back to pair with CMC.

[Snake]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I don't think Star wants to be here. I don't think he wants to be on the east coast period. He doesn't strike me as a guy who is all about the money and that's it. He'd probably take less money to be closer to family. It is what it is.

There's a reason he lives in Utah. He's good as gone but this is a good year to pick up a nose tackle. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Also, I know fans have assumed that Matsko's "running game coordinator" or whatever it is was just a promotion in title only and that his actual coaching job remains virtually the same, but our OL play in general and running game in particular have not looked as good since that promotion in title. Now, maybe that's just coincidence, I don't know.

[CPF4LIFE]

51 minutes ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

Kalil, TD  are retiring after this season & if you cut other old vets like: CJ , J-Stew, Adams, Dickson, Jones etc you will free up plenty of CAP space.

Didnt even think about Dickson, Jones. Those guys can easily be replaced anyway with cheap vets or rookies. I wouldnt hesitate to cut those guys to keep the best guard in the league.

[heel31ok]

57 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's actually a good question.

I would guess Rivera, and frankly the thought of Ron Rivera managing our salary cap gives me serious pause.

Just pick another team already...

[CPF4LIFE]

31 minutes ago, CRA said:

DGing it would be asking Kalil to go for a ride and then throwing him out on the highway going 70 mph.  

I mean you can part with old and expensive players....and not do it the Dave way. 

LMAO

[heel31ok]

19 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Maybe it is possible now that Kalil has said for sure he is retiring for next year

 

I said that we needed to cut Kalil to make room for Norwell.  Go with the youth thats a stud vs a old guy thats about to retire and missed 50% of the games the last 2 seasons.

With Kalil for sure gone after this year, maybe they can go light on year 1 of a norwell extension with Kalil still on the books.  Then a littler heavier then next 2 with Kalil off the books

Hate lose Kalil but we do have some guys who can play inside...

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Voth still sounds uncertain, but...

Reading the Tweet he's responding to, it sounds like the formula might include cutting Ryan Kalil and rolling with Tyler Larsen.

And keep in mind, we're still talking about paying Norwell a boatload of money.

That makes sense. 

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, thomas96 said:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Ryan take one for the team and take a significant pay cut so we have a much better shot of going out on top this year, with keeping Norwell. 

Norwell is the exact prototypical elite NFL player you just don't let walk. No matter how much you already have invested in the other G spot. I hope to god we can see this and keep Norwell. Protect your QB and keep elite (on the field and off) players.

Right.  Kalil stays averaging 7 games per season over the last 2 years and we let a feared LG walk off?  No way.  That would leave us, for half the season, with Larsen, Silatolu, and Matt Kalil on the left side.  AAAH..Cut must be significant with no extension. 

[imminent rogaine]

16 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Didnt even think about Dickson, Jones. Those guys can easily be replaced anyway with cheap vets or rookies. I wouldnt hesitate to cut those guys to keep the best guard in the league.

You didn't think of Dickson because he is a free agent and we can't cut him.

I don't know that we could find any vet to replace Adams, at least not for any cheaper than he is currently playing for,  but I'd be all for bringing in a stud safety in the draft.

 

[SetfreexX]

1 hour ago, thomas96 said:

Norwell tag would be silly... Will likely be $15M for a season. Top guard money is about $10-12M/year. That's a 25% to 50% increase for the tag for one year. If we keep him it's gotta be a long term deal locking him in here for the long haul.

I thought the FT was simply the average of the top 5 at that position.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

I thought the FT was simply the average of the top 5 at that position.

All OL are lumped together for some reason, so the huge OT contracts also impact the C and OG tag values.

[ericr0319]

Cuts - 

Ryan Kalil - saves $7,500,000. Aging, injured, and just not worth that pay day.
Jonathan Stewart - saves $3,750,000. See above.
Russell Shepard - saves $2,150,000. Not reliable. The only plays I remember from him outside his week 1 touchdown were bad plays. 
Charles Johnson - saves $3,500,000. Thank you for your time, but no where near worth this money, and I do not even want to see him take a paycut. Right now he is worthless on the field.
Wes Horton - saves $1,200,000. We will look to FA/Draft for more DE. 
Fozzy Whittaker - saves $1,150,000. Just not worth the $. Can find 100s of guys just like him. 
Kevon Seymour - saves $630,000. I mentioned him and Sanchez of the lesser guys because it is time to move on.
Zack Sanchez - saves $555,000. See above. 
Maybe cut a few others, but this brings our cap to $39,395,591.