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A good time of year for Props......


DaveThePanther2008

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I don't think many of you realize how nice it is to have a forum like the Carolina Huddle.  This forum is top of the line.  All teams have forums and some have multiply forums but none of them are as good as this one. (might be as good but none better)

I stumbled into this forum when I was a member of the Charlotte Observer's Panther Forum page, which they eventually dropped more than 10 years ago.  I believe it was 2003 or 2004 when I joined.  I think it was the Huddle (Huddle or Observer only Panther forums I belonged to) that had numbers assigned to the registered poster.   I had one that had 33 on it.  Whether it was the Huddle I cannot remember.  CRS syndrome kicks in more frequently these days.

We have had the pleasure of some insanely good posters here.   Many brought some great conversations and through the years they have come and gone.  

ZOD/JEREMY I personally thank you for this forum.   As a person that has works overseas most of the past 15 years this forum has been a stress relief spot for me.

Those that are new, you don't know how really good it is to have this forum.  It is easy to maneuver through and for the most part has some really good topics. 

 

Thanks Jeremy

Keep Pounding

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Personally, I feel that this was more pep talk for Jeremy than anything else.  Some of his threads lately have been somewhat covert cries for help.   A few thread titles:

So....

Hi there

Know the warning signs, people!  Jeremy, we are here for you. We are excellent listeners. 

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