Sorensen says we should sign Reid, and he's right.

[AggieLean]

Reid said he won’t be kneeling during the anthem this upcoming season, but he’s not going to stop being active. A few teams have, indeed, been in contact with him.

[Shocker]

2 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Reid said he won’t be kneeling during the anthem this upcoming season, but he’s not going to stop being active. A few teams have, indeed, been in contact with him.

More worried about injuries than him disrespecting the flag.  Its not like he is totally amazing either.  These guys gotta get realistic...you don't get paid as the best safety when you aren't. 

[KendrickPanther]

18 hours ago, top dawg said:

It's obvious that  institutional racism is alive and well in America, as well as racism in general, but that doesn't make it right by any means. 

And sure, some people may have decided to put the NFL down over the protests, but the fact is that the NFL's viewership was declining and/or flatlining well before those protests, so there are way more dynamics going on than just Kap and Reid taking a knee. 

Social issues have cast a specter over the NFL. The social media driven dialogue leaks into pre game shows, mid week shows, talk radio. Its negative and depressing and when these topics come up everyone is angry for their own reasons. It has hurt the NFL. Greg Hardy hurt the NFL. Deflate gate, Ray Rice, retired players committing suicide. Any discussion involving the NFL that is not about the games has been hurting ratings. The flag was too far for a lot of people, they couldn't take it anymore. 

Institutional Racism is an interesting word. Like casual Racism, reverse Racism. I don't fully understand why we need to attach words to racism.

I don't really know how to change the institutions to make them less racist. I don't even know how to define the institution. 

I think there has never been a better time to be a minority in this country. People are accepting and they want to be accepting. There is still a lot of problems too that need to be worked on but the anger and divisiveness hasn't helped in my opinion. President Trump used it to get elected. As a society we all created an atmosphere where something that stupid could happen. 

[Soul Rebel]

I tried to read through all of this but didn't finish, so if this article has been posted, my apologies.....

 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/opinion/colin-kaepernick-football-protests.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/

It has to do with why Reid started protesting beside Kap. It wasn't about the American flag or disrespecting the country/those that have served. They decided to kneel rather than sit because they saw the disrespect in sitting, but felt kneeling was more inline with the flag at half-mast. He mentioned too that they consulted with a few people as to what would be a right thing to do, and a former Green Beret at that.

There was a ton of injustices going on, and rather than do nothing with their celebrity/status in society, they chose to do something. People may not agree with it, but it shouldn't preclude him from playing football.

Now, if the concussions are your concern, then ok... I get that. But to not sign a player in his prime that is very good at his position because he exercised his Constitutional rights as an American in a respectful, non-violent way, then I don't know what to tell you.

Torrey Smith is very socially active with trying to bring change and attention to injustices in our country, and locked arms in solidarity during the anthem and he's here.

We have a huge need for a veteran top-notch safety, and to not sign this man is wrong, IMO.

[ChibCU]

26 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

Torrey Smith is very socially active with trying to bring change and attention to injustices in our country, and locked arms in solidarity during the anthem and he's here.

We have a huge need for a veteran top-notch safety, and to not sign this man is wrong, IMO.

These two sentences makes me think you don't even know what point you are trying to get across. You've gone and confused yourself.

[MtnProwler]

44 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

I tried to read through all of this but didn't finish, so if this article has been posted, my apologies.....

 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/opinion/colin-kaepernick-football-protests.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/

It has to do with why Reid started protesting beside Kap. It wasn't about the American flag or disrespecting the country/those that have served. They decided to kneel rather than sit because they saw the disrespect in sitting, but felt kneeling was more inline with the flag at half-mast. He mentioned too that they consulted with a few people as to what would be a right thing to do, and a former Green Beret at that.

There was a ton of injustices going on, and rather than do nothing with their celebrity/status in society, they chose to do something. People may not agree with it, but it shouldn't preclude him from playing football.

Now, if the concussions are your concern, then ok... I get that. But to not sign a player in his prime that is very good at his position because he exercised his Constitutional rights as an American in a respectful, non-violent way, then I don't know what to tell you.

Torrey Smith is very socially active with trying to bring change and attention to injustices in our country, and locked arms in solidarity during the anthem and he's here.

We have a huge need for a veteran top-notch safety, and to not sign this man is wrong, IMO.

I agree with you. However, there's one aspect that I think people are missing, from all sides. Even if one is acting in their legal bounds, no matter how just the cause, others can disagree on the timing and place. This is nothing new, activists under the same cause have always disagreed on strategic plans. In-fact, they rarely agree 100% of the time. So, don't be surprised to find people that fight for the same cause but disagree on how and when to act.

[Jaxel]

Bring in Reid, draft Jackson, secondary solved.

[4Corners]

22 hours ago, NAS said:

I love how the conservatives complain about the PC police and people being overly sensitive, calling them snowflakes,, but can't handle another man's decision to kneel.  Talk about a meltdown LOL

On the football side, the risk is worth the reward. If he can stay healthy, he would be a huge help in the secondary and would be successful working behind our front 7.

 

Free speech in this country, to some, is only allowed if you are a white Christian male who blindly supports a womanizing  president with no morals who is knee deep in corruption. 

[Riv]

4 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Free speech in this country, to some, is only allowed if you are a white Christian male who blindly supports a womanizing  president with no morals who is knee deep in corruption. 

Turn off CNN, snowflake.  Let's explain this one more time:

FREE SPEECH.  HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.  YES.  HE'S EXORCISING HIS RIGHT.  BUT.  HE IS.  OPENING HIMSELF.  UP.  TO.  NEGATIVE PUBLIC OPINION.  WHICH.  IS BAD BUSINESS.  FOR ENTERTAINERS.   BECAUSE.  HE TURNS HIMSELF OFF.  TO MANY FANS.

Football is an entertainment industry.  This is precisely why SO MANY in Hollywood are "liberal".  It's because they think if they are conservative, people will not like them.  They are slaves to public opinion because it PAYS THEM MONEY.  Unfortunately for the protesting football players, the same people who watch bad movies aren't the ones paying to watch them play football on Sundays.

[Jai.]

On 3/21/2018 at 10:37 AM, SetfreexX said:

I served in the USMC from 2003-2007 -- there is absolutely nothing wrong with him taking a knee. It's not a sign of disrespect, it's a gesture that would be respectful enough to garner attention. 

We take a knee for injured players, and fallen brothers, and that is the PERFECT way to one, not only pay respects to the black people that LOST THEIR LIVES UNJUSTLY AT THE HANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, but to also generate the attention the matter itself needed. 

If you can't support that, then you my friend I hope never have a cause that you'd be willing to sacrifice your lively-hood for and to also not be heard. 

I appreciate your service, as a combat veteran myself, I second your opinion!

[NAS]

4 minutes ago, Riv said:

Turn off CNN, snowflake.  Let's explain this one more time:

FREE SPEECH.  HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.  YES.  HE'S EXORCISING HIS RIGHT.  BUT.  HE IS.  OPENING HIMSELF.  UP.  TO.  NEGATIVE PUBLIC OPINION.  WHICH.  IS BAD BUSINESS.  FOR ENTERTAINERS.   BECAUSE.  HE TURNS HIMSELF OFF.  TO MANY FANS.

Football is an entertainment industry.  This is precisely why SO MANY in Hollywood are "liberal".  It's because they think if they are conservative, people will not like them.  They are slaves to public opinion because it PAYS THEM MONEY.  Unfortunately for the protesting football players, the same people who watch bad movies aren't the ones paying to watch them play football on Sundays.

You can't have it both ways.  You're mad when people get offended for racist, homophobic, xenophobic, or misogynistic comments by your president and his supporters, and talk about how free speech is under attack, even though, the right to protest, or boycott is part of free speech.  I'm fine with people boycotting NFL or the games if they feel like it.  Some of us are just pointing out the hypocrisy that you can't support free speech when it happens to disagree with your views.  If you're OK with the NFL players losing their jobs because of free speech, then the same should hold true for any teacher, police officer, politician, or anyone else in the society.  If you bring bad publicity then the company has the right to blackball you.  End of story.  Stop being a hypocrite.

[4Corners]

29 minutes ago, Riv said:

Turn off CNN, snowflake.  Let's explain this one more time:

FREE SPEECH.  HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.  YES.  HE'S EXORCISING HIS RIGHT.  BUT.  HE IS.  OPENING HIMSELF.  UP.  TO.  NEGATIVE PUBLIC OPINION.  WHICH.  IS BAD BUSINESS.  FOR ENTERTAINERS.   BECAUSE.  HE TURNS HIMSELF OFF.  TO MANY FANS.

Football is an entertainment industry.  This is precisely why SO MANY in Hollywood are "liberal".  It's because they think if they are conservative, people will not like them.  They are slaves to public opinion because it PAYS THEM MONEY.  Unfortunately for the protesting football players, the same people who watch bad movies aren't the ones paying to watch them play football on Sundays.

Football players are only allowed to get their brains beat in for your enjoyment. They are not allowed to have opinions on social issues (especially if they are black) and certainly are not allowed to speak their minds. Shut up and dribble. They must bow down to Emperor Trump and stay in line. All hail Emperor Trump and the very fair and just system and culture of ‘Merica. You ain’t takiN mY GuNzz u LibRUL dem is my guNZ. 

[4Corners]

24 minutes ago, NAS said:

You can't have it both ways.  You're mad when people get offended for racist, homophobic, xenophobic, or misogynistic comments by your president and his supporters, and talk about how free speech is under attack, even though, the right to protest, or boycott is part of free speech.  I'm fine with people boycotting NFL or the games if they feel like it.  Some of us are just pointing out the hypocrisy that you can't support free speech when it happens to disagree with your views.  If you're OK with the NFL players losing their jobs because of free speech, then the same should hold true for any teacher, police officer, politician, or anyone else in the society.  If you bring bad publicity then the company has the right to blackball you.  End of story.  Stop being a hypocrite.

It’s pointless to argue or try to enlighten some of the people in this country. There’s a good example of it in this very thread. A lot of it has to do with racism (you can easily spot this out in this thread as well). Just hope that these people haven’t reproduced and been able to spread their backwards, ignorant way of thinking to anyone else. Our country is very divided and I hope after electing a person who has fascist tendencies and ties to white nationalism, people will think twice about not voting next time. 

Like I said I think Reid can help the team. I’d still love for him and kapernick to be signed just to watch all the Trumper fake captain America snowflakes get triggered by something that doesn’t really matter like kneeling during the anthem and have huge hissy fits. 

[Riv]

8 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Football players are only allowed to get their brains beat in for your enjoyment. They are not allowed to have opinions on social issues (especially if they are black) and certainly are not allowed to speak their minds. Shut up and dribble. They must bow down to Emperor Trump and stay in line. All hail Emperor Trump and the very fair and just system and culture of ‘Merica. You ain’t takiN mY GuNzz u LibRUL dem is my guNZ. 

AGAIN.  ONE LAST TIME.

 

By all means, they can do and say what they want... the have the right to free speech, but that doesn't mean there are no impacts to what they do or say.