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Deeper look at who might be available at 24

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There seem's to be a consensus of roughly 14 players that never make it to pick 24 in most mock drafts found online. Outside of these players every one else seems to slip to us in a fair amount of mocks. 

  • 4 QB'S, Darnold,Allen,Rosen and Mayfield.
  • 3 DB'S Derwin James, Denzel Ward and Minka Fitzpatrick
  • 2 DE's, Chubb and Marcus Davenport
  • 2 LB'S Roquan Smith and Tremaine Edmunds
  • 1 RB, Barkley
  • 1 G, Nelson
  • 1 DT, Vita Vea

History over the last 4 draft's bears out like this. 

On average 3.75 WR'S  and 3.75 offensive tackles have gone in the top 23 picks. The above list does not list any receivers or Offensive tackles.

History also shows an average of 3 DE's and LB's going before 24. There are only of  2 of each of those positions above.

Lastly that list is just .75 short of the average of 3.75 DB's taken in the first 23 over the last 4 years.  Of the positions not listed above only TE (3) and Center (1) have cracked the top 23 over the past 4 years. So it stands to reason that there may be a bigger run on WR'S, Tackles,DE's,LB'S and DB'S. It's just hard to predict what those names may be. Its also plausible a TE or Center could squeeze their way into there or maybe even another RB (they've averaged 1.25 a year in this time frame).

To take it a step further, heres the draft order of teams 15-23  in the 18 draft and what they used their 1st rounder on last year.

  • 15 Cardinals, Hasson Reddick LB
  • 16 Ravens,Marlon Humphrey CB
  • 17 Chargers, Mike Williams WR
  • 18 Seahawks, No 1st round pick
  • 19 Cowboys, Taco Charlton DE
  • 20 Lions, Jarrad Davis LB
  • 21 Bengals, John Ross WR
  • 22 Bills, Tre'Davious White CB
  • 23 Rams, NO First round pick.

 

  • I could see the Cardinals in the hunt for a DB  with the loss of Matthieu. 
  • The Ravens need some serious help to their WR core as well. They lost Wallace and Maclin. Picked up Crabtree and John Brown but thats about all they have.
  • Not sure what the direction the chargers will go but they seem to be stacked at DE,CB, AND WR, all positions that would interest us.
  • With the departure's of Sherman, Bennett and Richardson, the Seahawks needs seem pretty similar to ours. 
  • The cowboy's biggest need in common with us seems to be safety. 
  • Lion's have holes everywhere except WR or QB, so I feel like they could go any direction outside of those 2 positions.
  • Bengal's, another team unlikely to go after WR, after drafting Ross in the top 10 and already having Green.
  • Bill's may eventually package that pick to go get a QB, however if they stay there, they could be looking for a CB OR WR as well.
  • The Rams are def. all set at corner and DT after aggresively attacking both positions this offseason. They obviously have interest in replacing Watkins, since they have inquired about him and they did trade DE Robert Quinn this year too. 

All that being said its surely looking like we will have a BPA decision to make between O-line, WR, CB and DE as those positions seem likely to hold the most value at 24 and align with our current set of needs. 

Again it gets real murky after the top 14 consensus players get selected on who might make it to 23. Here's a list of 10 names that may be of interest and stand a chance to make it to us and at least 1 of them should be available.

  1. Calvin Ridley WR
  2. Josh Jackson CB
  3. Jaire Alexander CB
  4. Isiah Wynn      OG
  5. Will Hernandez OG
  6. Christian Kirk WR
  7. Harold Landry DE
  8. Sam Hubbard DE
  9. Justin Reid Safety (He's Jordan Rodrique's prediction at the moment).
  10. Any RB not named Barkley (Darin Gantt predicted Nick Chubb at 24 on WFNZ today)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From Tony Pauline:

In conversations last week, the day before Josh Allen had his pro-day workout, a team picking in the top 15 -- who shall remained unnamed -- shared the order of top 15 players on its board. It went like this:

1 - Sam Darnold/QB/USC

2 - Josh Allen/QB/Wyoming

3 - Josh Rosen/QB/UCLA

4 - Bradley Chubb/DL/North Carolina State

5 - Saquon Barkley/RB/Penn State

6 - Quenton Nelson/G/Notre Dame

7 - Minkah Fitzpatrick/DB/Alabama

8 - Denzel Ward/CB/Ohio State

9 - Tremaine Edmunds/LB/Virginia Tech

10 - Roquan Smith/LB/Georgia

11 - Baker Mayfield/QB/Oklahoma

12 - Derwin James/S/Florida State

13 - Vita Vea/DL/Washington

14 - Leighton Vander Esch/LB/Boise State

15 - Calvin Ridley/WR/Alabama

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7 minutes ago, Adb6368 said:

Harold Landry would be BPA in that scenario and, believe it or not, is a North Carolina product (right outside of Fayetteville)

I would count Landry as too light to handle the 43 DE but good for the 34 OLB, but that is just me

WR's in this draft are mostly 2nd round grades, so if Ridley drops, it would be a surprise

RB's however are very good this year, but the position is not as valued as it used to be.

I would so love to have 2 picks in the top 10 of the second round

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