Not ideal for our defense

[CarolinaSamurai]

This is why I think Eric Washington is not a good defensive coordinator. You can point to Luke, TD, Pep, KK, Poe, Addison, Shaq, and so on. It's all of them and when everyone who normally are good suck together. Then it's the coordinator. 

[BrianS]

This is on the DL, it's not even a question.  There are really only two possibilities.

 

1.  Eric Washington isn't a very good DC.

2.  Whoever is coaching the DL now is terrible.

 

[Jon Snow]

6 minutes ago, BrianS said:

This is on the DL, it's not even a question.  There are really only two possibilities.

 

1.  Eric Washington isn't a very good DC.

2.  Whoever is coaching the DL now is terrible.

 

I would add a 3rd alternative;

3. The group is just not good enough to get the job done.  Age and inexperience has caught up to them.

[Doc Holiday]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

I would add a 3rd alternative;

3. The group is just not good enough to get the job done.  Age and inexperience has caught up to them.

I was honestly very concerned about the age on the D-Line before even training camp. 

NFL is a young mans game for a reason, if you were expecting Peppers to put up 10+ sacks again you are expecting way too much.

[Raleigh PF]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I would add a 3rd alternative;

3. The group is just not good enough to get the job done.  Age and inexperience has caught up to them.

I'm not buying #3. The talent is certainly there. The question is the motivation.

[punkpanther]

So far Brady Hoke doesn’t seem to be getting the job done . 

[Ship]

I think Peppers is done. I think Addison is a decent player but he hit his high point already and will now age down. KK had a great year to get paid but has been inconsistent otherwise. Butler is a bust. Obada is in a similar boat to Addison, meaning he has promise and drive but not a very high ceiling when you consider the time it’ll take him to grow and his age by the time he gets there. Poe is ok but isn’t a d-line centerpiece.

the D-line just isn’t as great as they get credit for. We haven’t really developed much talent there at all in years. It’s all reputation. What talent was there is aging and is being coached by someone not that great and the DC is new and is struggling.

we really need a marquee pass rusher DE to change this team.

[rippadonn]

Pep look good to me. No real history of injury. He's a unicorn he could literally play two more seasons and pad his HOF stats, something I was hoping #89 would have done.

[Nails]

14 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

I was honestly very concerned about the age on the D-Line before even training camp. 

NFL is a young mans game for a reason, if you were expecting Peppers to put up 10+ sacks again you are expecting way too much.

Before training camp 2018?  Ha.  This D hasn’t been elite since the Ray Rice video came out and the Panthers took it up the poop shoot without lube by giving up 37 and 38 points to the Steelers and Ravens in consecutive weeks in 2014...without a player that had earned the FRANCHISE TAG by virtue of his on field and locker room presence.

[rippadonn]

Did you guys not see that sack fumble?!? That looks like the same guy that left years ago.

[CPF4LIFE]

20 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

I was honestly very concerned about the age on the D-Line before even training camp. 

NFL is a young mans game for a reason, if you were expecting Peppers to put up 10+ sacks again you are expecting way too much.

I said the exact same thing in off season on here but i was told the D line would be fine, led league in sacks last year. Blah blah blah nothing to worry about.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, Ship said:

I think Peppers is done. I think Addison is a decent player but he hit his high point already and will now age down. KK had a great year to get paid but has been inconsistent otherwise. Butler is a bust. Obada is in a similar boat to Addison, meaning he has promise and drive but not a very high ceiling when you consider the time it’ll take him to grow and his age by the time he gets there. Poe is ok but isn’t a d-line centerpiece.

the D-line just isn’t as great as they get credit for. We haven’t really developed much talent there at all in years. It’s all reputation. What talent was there is aging and is being coached by someone not that great and the DC is new and is struggling.

we really need a marquee pass rusher DE to change this team.

Yep, a quiet problem that has been building for some time IMO. 

[rippadonn]

6 minutes ago, Nails said:

Before training camp 2018?  Ha.  This D hasn’t been elite since the Ray Rice video came out and the Panthers took it up the poop shoot without lube by giving up 37 and 38 points to the Steelers and Ravens in consecutive weeks in 2014...without a player that had earned the FRANCHISE TAG through his on field and locker room presence.

You know I'm one of the few on here that is with you on that one.

Release him! Release that mother f'r!

 

 

[Nails]

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

I said the exact same thing in off season on here but i was told the D line would be fine, led league in sacks last year. Blah blah blah nothing to worry about.

 

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Yep, a quiet problem that has been building for some time IMO. 

Yeah, since the Rice video came out and the Panthers became pussycats.