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As good as Cam has been, how well he would play with an offensive minded coach like Andy Reid who knows how to put up points in the modern NFL?   Sorry, but I can't help but feel bad for the guy.  Mahomes is putting up video game numbers, and he doesn't even have the running threat of Cam Newton at his disposal. Instaed, we have to be content with an offensive scheme and a head coach mindset whose best days are in the 90s/early 2000s.  

Full disclosure: I am not in the Fire Rivera or coaches camp, just pointing out how things could have been different for Cam and the Panthers if we had someone like Andy Reid or Sean McVay.  But those coaches are not easy to find.    I guess I am just envious.  

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6 minutes ago, NAS said:

As good as Cam has been, how well he would play with an offensive minded coach like Andy Reid who knows how to put up points in the modern NFL?   Sorry, but I can't help but feel bad for the guy.  Mahomes is putting up video game numbers, and he doesn't even have the running threat of Cam Newton at his disposal. Instaed, we have to be content with an offensive scheme and a head coach mindset whose best days are in the 90s/early 2000s.  

Full disclosure: I am not in the Fire Rivera or coaches camp, just pointing out how things could have been different for Cam and the Panthers if we had someone like Andy Reid or Sean McVay.  But those coaches are not easy to find.    I guess I am just envious.  

I know what you are saying.  

 

I will say, there's a reason Andy Reid hasn't won it all.  Typically, those offenses slow down tremendously when the weather cools.  

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1 minute ago, PantherBrew said:

I know what you are saying.  

 

I will say, there's a reason Andy Reid hasn't won it all.  Typically, those offenses slow down tremendously when the weather cools.  

Well I don't see anyone stopping them this year, except for maybe the Rams in the SB.  

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I’ve said in other posts quite often Cam would thrive with other offensive coaches,..

that being said, every year someone comes out swinging with video game numbers, but their team doesn’t win in January,....the Rams burned,.the Chiefs are a team that do video game numbers repeatedly through the years,.. and they burn.

Atlanta was putting up video game numbers,.. 

And,... 28-3

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I agree, but I believe this offense can flourish come November and December. I really hope that Norv has more sway to embrace a faster pace on offense. Also my biggest concern for the Rams and Chiefs is adversity. They are blowing out teams but what are they made of when things are not going their way? I see a good veteran QB knocking both of these teams out in the playoffs. 

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3 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Doesn’t Kansas City have the last ranked defense? 

Their defense sucks, but not sure it is the worst, or as bad as the numbers suggest.  When you're playing with a huge lead, you'll play softer coverage and allow teams to gain yards, etc.

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This offense has been built around Can to take advantage of his strengths. I promise you Turner didn't run the read option until this year for Cam. The notion that Cam would do well in a WCO is pretty funny. He is in the right offense and he showed he can score points with it like he did yesterday. The old he is being held back is BS. There is no offense that has been more tailored for a QB than ours. 

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3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

This offense has been built around Can to take advantage of his strengths. I promise you Turner didn't run the read option until this year for Cam. The notion that Cam would do well in a WCO is pretty funny. He is in the right offense and he showed he can score points with it like he did yesterday. The old he is being held back is BS. There is no offense that has been more tailored for a QB than ours. 

No way, you can't tell me he wouldn't thrive and be able to make the same reads and throws as Mahomes or even better.

And it's not even primarily the scheme .  It's the aggressive, go for the kill mentality and putting defenses under pressure instead of trying to manage the clock.   Look at the weapons at the WR position, and how much speed is at disposal.  Meanwhile, Ron is still barely getting Moore and Samuel involved.   

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No way, you can't tell me he wouldn't thrive and be able to make the same reads and throws as Mahomes or even better.  

I won't debate hypotheticals as there is no definitive answer, I will simply say that he is in the offense he helped create and he can change it anytime he wants. He can also audible out of any play so honestly if we aren't running his offense it is as much on him as anyone else.

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2 hours ago, NAS said:

No way, you can't tell me he wouldn't thrive and be able to make the same reads and throws as Mahomes or even better.

And it's not even primarily the scheme .  It's the aggressive, go for the kill mentality and putting defenses under pressure instead of trying to manage the clock.   Look at the weapons at the WR position, and how much speed is at disposal.  Meanwhile, Ron is still barely getting Moore and Samuel involved.   

Nah. The old Cam is a victim is getting old. Look at other quarterbacks with poor receivers historically like Brady. He has crap for wide receivers every year. Cam has to elevate everyone around him like he did in 2015. And again Ron has little to do with who plays when and wear. That would be Turner. Another huddle whine that just isn't true. I am glad Cam doesn't buy into your excuses and justfications. He just plays ball 

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