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Mr. Scot

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

There aren't any truly interesting DC candidates this year. And given the league emphasis on offense, that's probably going to be true for a while.

Guess that's another good thing about Jerry Richardson being gone. He always insisted on defensive coaches. If he were still around, we'd be looking for another one (assuming he was even willing to fire Rivera).

Right... and I think what people are missing is that if we hire an offensive coach it doesn’t mean the defense will be trash...mcvay has Wade Phillips as his DC for a reason.  Our best players and the ones with the most upside are on offense now...we need someone who can take advantage of it. Thanks for making a thread that’s not just aimless bitching also

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

You guys not liking it is actually one of the best endorsements it could get.

We're not keeping Rivera.

Was going to say that rofl. It's always the same couple of morons who don't know poo about football.

They never heard of those guys before you posted it because they are too busy thinking the Panthers are going to blow out every team every year and go 16-0 and win all TEH superbowls.

That list has a couple of good choices and the timing for us changing HC is actually much better than it has been in the past.

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Relevant news...

Tensions seem to be rising between Zimmer and DeFilippo

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Coach Mike Zimmer, a defensive specialist who chooses to delegate the entirety of the offense to his offensive coordinator, has periodically complained about the fact that the Vikings too quickly abandon the running game. After Sunday’s 24-10 loss to the Patriots, Zimmer was at is again.

“What do you think you need to do to get the offense back to rolling a little bit better?” Zimmer was asked by reporters.

“Same thing I have been saying all year,” Zimmer said.

“Do you think you ran the ball enough?”

“No.”

At one level, it’s Zimmer’s own fault for treating the offense like an absentee landlord. Yes, his efforts on the defensive side of the ball have helped the Vikings become a top-level unit. But in an age of pinball offense, the fact that Zimmer isn’t involved at all with his own offense is becoming more and more glaring.

Here’s what else is becoming more and more glaring: The efforts of current offensive coordinator John DeFilippo to get a head-coaching job by dialing up plays aimed at generating more buzz that he’s a candidate to become a head coach as soon as 2019. It reminds me of the latter year of two of Hue Jackson’s prior tenure in Cincinnati? He was coming up with funky formations and trick plays as part of a not-so-subtle effort to become a head coach again.

It’s seems like DeFilippo may be doing something similar, showcasing his skills in designing and calling potentially explosive plays instead of relying as much as he should on a meat-and-potatoes approach.

It may not end well. In 2015, former Vikings offensive coordinator Norv Turner abruptly quit during the season.

Chudzinski alert?

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8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is from the Marvez article I wuoted earlier...

 

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One lesson learned was the value of outside-the-box thinking when it comes to game-planning, especially when facing a superior opponent. Campbell vividly remembers how Parcells laid the groundwork for a 31-28 upset over Kansas City during the 2005 season.

"They were No. 1 in the league in points per game, and we were not that type of team, although we had a good defense," Campbell said. "Parcells said, ‘Look, we’re gonna be aggressive. We’re gonna throw the ball down the field. On fourth down, we’re gonna go for it.’

"It was totally opposite than the nature of how he had taught us to play. But we won the game because we outscored them."

I get that, but at his core, Parcells ran an old school offense.  It was predicated on power running and heavy TE use.  There is certainly a place for that in today's game, but I just don't want it as our base offense again...not in todays offensive landscape with the explosive talent we have.  And Parcells was certainly smart enough to adjust, but he usually did so situationally.  He wasn't some innovative offensive mind that pushed the boundaries.  

Now, I have not heard one thing about Campbell's offensive philosophies, so I don't have a specific opinion on him yet.  I just don't know if he will be another power running coach like Parcells was (and Ron is), or if he will be open to innovation and aggression like Payton.  I'm sure he'll take elements from both, but what would his foundation be...what will he fall back on when things get dicey?

There is no doubt he is a smart coach and he sounds like a great leader, and I do love the fact that he is a big picture thinker.  Guys like that often make better HC's than coordinators.  But without a strong x's and o's background, he'll need to hire strong coordinators with a lot of experience to help compensate.  Just a thought, but if we would hire him, I wonder if he would bring Carmichael with him (or if Carmichael would even come) to act at the real OC, and not just a figurehead assistant?  

So, I guess I am reserving judgement on him until I learn more about his philosophies and how he would run a team.  There are definitely things that intrigue me about him, I just need to learn more before I can formulate an educated opinion.

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4 hours ago, Woodie said:

I get that, but at his core, Parcells ran an old school offense.  It was predicated on power running and heavy TE use.  There is certainly a place for that in today's game, but I just don't want it as our base offense again...not in todays offensive landscape with the explosive talent we have.  And Parcells was certainly smart enough to adjust, but he usually did so situationally.  He wasn't some innovative offensive mind that pushed the boundaries.  

Now, I have not heard one thing about Campbell's offensive philosophies, so I don't have a specific opinion on him yet.  I just don't know if he will be another power running coach like Parcells was (and Ron is), or if he will be open to innovation and aggression like Payton.  I'm sure he'll take elements from both, but what would his foundation be...what will he fall back on when things get dicey?

There is no doubt he is a smart coach and he sounds like a great leader, and I do love the fact that he is a big picture thinker.  Guys like that often make better HC's than coordinators.  But without a strong x's and o's background, he'll need to hire strong coordinators with a lot of experience to help compensate.  Just a thought, but if we would hire him, I wonder if he would bring Carmichael with him (or if Carmichael would even come) to act at the real OC, and not just a figurehead assistant?  

So, I guess I am reserving judgement on him until I learn more about his philosophies and how he would run a team.  There are definitely things that intrigue me about him, I just need to learn more before I can formulate an educated opinion.

I can get the Parcells thing, but what moves me away from thinking he'd be old school like Rivera is his association with Payton. He's seen the inner workings there, and he's smart enough to know the direction the league is headed.

Throw in some of the other stories from his past and it's pretty clear he's got a "do what works" mindset.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can get the Parcells thing, but what moves me away from thinking he'd be old school like Rivera is his association with Payton. He's seen the inner workings there, and he's smart enough to know the direction the league is headed.

Throw in some of the other stories from his past and it's pretty clear he's got a "do what works" mindset.

I hope you're right.  I do think working under Payton will be big for his career.  No matter what his general philosophy is, he'll get looks just because teams will want to tap into what they do in NO.  I just don't want him to come here with these big plans to bring an exciting and explosive offensive scheme only to settle into a comfortable place focused on power running.  I think we'll learn more as we get more into hiring season.

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23 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

To the few who suggested Cowher, god no.  Look at Gruden, the game passed him by and you can sure as poo bet it has passed Cowher by.  Leave him in happy retirement.

Wouldn't want Cowher as a coach either, but for GM?  I'm listening.

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I might be in the minority here, but I believe Marty Hurney is more likely to be fired than Rivera. Regardless of how the season plays out, I expect Tepper to clean house in the front office. He mentioned that the Panthers need to embrace more analytics. Also, we have 27 unrestricted free agents. I believe Tepper and Glick want their own guy coming in to evaluate the roster and negotiate with FA. I believe the biggest failure this season was hanging onto players that were past their expiration date. I can stomach Rivera being kept one more season, but Hurney must absolutely go. 

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