Disaapointed with Norv

[Manther]

At the begining of the season, CMC actually had holes to run through, with a dumpster fire offensive line, Cam was stepping up into the pocket, we were looking better than we had for years.  Then the Steelers showed everyone how to make swiss cheese out of the oline and Norv never managed to adjust and recover.  His redzone O has been the worst I've seen in 5 years.

 

Is he the one gone at the end of the season?

I assure you RR will NOT let the D regress like the poo we saw this season again.  God, I wish RR would just be our DC.

[RumHam]

Norv has been a letdown. Is he better than Shula? yes, by a mile, but unfortunately way too conservative. How predictable is the quick slant? Wow we run reverses. 

[Skack25]

Just now, Manther said:

At the begining of the season, CMC actually had holes to run through, with a dumpster fire offensive line, Cam was stepping up into the pocket, we were looking better than we had for years.  Then the Steelers showed everyone how to make swiss cheese out of the oline and Norv never managed to adjust and recover.  His redzone O has been the worst I've seen in 5 years.

 

Is he the one gone at the end of the season?

I assure you RR will NOT let the D regress like the poo we saw this season again.  God, I wish RR would just be our DC.

To answer your question, no.

To ask a follow up question, how much of the offensive regression do you think is attributed to having an injured QB?

Source: stats pre-hit to shoulder vs stats post-hit to shoulder

[Moo Daeng]

You can say he has issues but the OL is weak and you can only run trick plays so long. It was only a matter of time before their deficiencies became exploited. 

[Jackofalltrades]

I think you have to put it in the proper context and remember he has an injured QB and a patchwork OL. Not a free pass by any means but those are two things that are tough to overcome. I really think that’s why we relied so heavily on short passes and more of a diagonal and sometimes horizontal passing game. 

As much as I want to blame Norv I just can’t convince myself that he’s the problem. 

[Carl Spackler]

2 minutes ago, Jackofalltrades said:

I think you have to put it in the proper context and remember he has an injured QB and a patchwork OL. Not a free pass by any means but those are two things that are tough to overcome. I really think that’s why we relied so heavily on short passes and more of a diagonal and sometimes horizontal passing game. 

As much as I want to blame Norv I just can’t convince myself that he’s the problem. 

They're super tough to overcome when Norv forgets halfway through the second quarter that it's legal to run the ball 

[raz]

when your qb can't really throw downfield it makes playing d a whole lot easier.  watching luck play, they take shots and run the ball.   the d has to respect the deep threat.   we don't have that.  norv doesn't have that.   i'm not happy with nt either but no deep threat is a big deal

[TheRed]

We change offensive coordinators, head coach remains, same offensive miscues and lack of situational awareness in playcalling remains. Hmm.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Norv, like most of us, has room for improvement, but do your really believe he is the reason our offense has fallen off a cliff these last 6 weeks?

[Cpt slay a ho]

Yeah I’ve been disappointed in norvs second half, not enough running, if norv knows cam isn’t healthy to pass downfield, than game plan around it, also not enough running cam in the redzone or on the goaline

[raz]

5 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Yeah I’ve been disappointed in norvs second half, not enough running, if norv knows cam isn’t healthy to pass downfield, than game plan around it, also not enough running cam in the redzone or on the goaline

if norv knows cam is hurt... run cam more in the redzone.  so run the hurt qb more is what you're saying?  hmmmm?  idk if you've thought your cunning plan all the way thru 

[Carl Spackler]

7 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Norv, like most of us, has room for improvement, but do your really believe he is the reason our offense has fallen off a cliff these last 6 weeks?

Norv isn't the cause of the red zone turnovers, but the shitty playcalling inside the 10 and the absolute refusal to run the ball are all his fault

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, raz said:

if norv knows cam is hurt... run cam more in the redzone.  so run the hurt qb more is what you're saying?  hmmmm?  idk.  

why not? they don't mind throwing the hurt qb 40 times a game

[LinvilleGorge]

I thought he started out really well, but in recent weeks his redzone play calling has been questionable at best and then last night for some reason we completely abandoned the run in the second half while the OL couldn't pass protect, Cam could barely throw the ball, and after CMC had been having good success in the first half. Baffling