Cam Newton wasted time signaling first down, talking to Saints before halftime

[Darvinsun]

16 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Lol so dumb...  and if he completes that TD to Funchess right after, no one cares or remembers.  In fact, he still had time for 2 or 3 more plays from the spot we were at even after that...  

Also, if you didnt see, after he walked to the sideline when the timeout was called, Ron was smiling and clapping energetically while praising Cam.  So, for those Anti-Cam guys, his coach didn't care or try to call the timeout either lol.

Rivera probably told Cam to waste the time if he got a 1st down. Not wanting to leave Brees any clock time thinking that the throw to Funchess would be a touch down...lol

[Peppers90 NC]

7 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Oh don't try to distance yourself now that it's more overt than you're used to.

These are your people. Own it. Don't be a little bitch. This is an anonymous message board anyway.

hey isnt it about time you go back to my post history so you can play in scat on each one? At least this time it wont be as obvious since i have a lot more posts the last two days instead of having to go a week back like last time. talking about being a bitch lol

[Icege]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

If you're referring to me I have not dismissed his failures. I flat out said it was inexcusable to throw 4 picks just the other week. You know why? Because it was. He even said so himself. He took responsibility for it like he always has.

But this hand wringing over miniscule factors like showing emotion just honestly makes me sick and it's just indicative of how little progress we've actually made as a nation in the year 2018. You can rationalize it however you like, but the people giving you the most emphatic high fives on that are in fact the racists of our fanbase. I've seen your posts over the years, and I don't think you are one of them. But I'm just straight up telling you that this ire about celebrating has been a go to racist dogwhistle since we drafted Cam. It is not remotely disputable. Whether it was the towel, the immaturity tropes, the mom's sending in angry letters because a big black man danced in the end zone, it's all the same smelly poo pile.

But keep trading pie with the likes of @Peppers90 NC as he angrily rants about being called a racist.

If I were referring specifically to you, I would be up front with that. There were plenty of posts while skimming through that immediately deflected fault to Ron. If you are included that group, feel free to be included. If not, feel free to not.

I mean, okay? I agreed with a poster in here about folks attempting to absolve Cam of all blame for whatever reasons they might have? I don't know what kind of history the two of you have so whatever that might be in particular, please keep it between y'all in the Tinderbox and leave me out of it. I didn't join in the conversation to defend that individual, I joined in to make a quip about the hypocrisy of folks that roll their eyes in frustration when they hear about buttery mails only to engage in the exact same behaviour (complete with righteous indignation).

Bruh... if there is any hand-wringing over Cam it's whether or not he's going to be ok. The front page is mostly threads worried about Cam's health and damning the coaching staff for not immediately declaring him a scratch vs. ATL. 

9 threads concerned about Cam's health
3 threads criticizing Cam
1 thread about pro bowlers
1 threads about firing Rivera
1 thread about our defense
9 random other threads
5 draft/offseason threads

I can definitely understand where shitty posters agreeing with a perspective I might have can be off-putting, but I promise that it isn't coming from the same source as their's. Tb100, I should blame Rivera more due to him being the head coach... but Ron has taught me to never expect anything from him other than blistering mediocrity and disappointment (now I know how my dad felt with me lmao). Cam, on the other hand, I know that he is better and expect him to be. So long as he learns from it, okay, but it is especially frustrating after the taunting penalty he received a few games ago for dropping the ball down on that defender that kept swatting at it. Maybe he needs two strikes because he thrives under pressure, idk, but I want him to see him in command of the game. At this point with Rivera I'm just happy that he isn't chewing the tarp and clapping his cheeks.

[Darvinsun]

27 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

You see qb’s calling TO all the time, why did Cam have to show boat and use up the clock? 

Stop defending Cam when he screws up, he doesn’t get a free pass because he’s Cam.

We had plenty of time to score it just didn't work bc Cam threw to Funchess which is never a good thing. I wish he would have gone back to the days when Funchess was invisible to him. I can' blame Cam for that 1st down celebration cause its not why we didn' score. Yes he should have had his team ready to play but its the only play that Cam did well. He was just happy, unfortunately his arm is unwillingly to help him. I felt sad for Cam cause I know what this game this season meant to him. Everyone blasting Cam should be rethinking things bc it is bc of his unshelfishness to risk injury to his body for a team win is the reason why his shoulder is damaged. He should not have been playing. Well have seen how he has played since the Steelers game. This is why we have a back up QB, play him. The guy is hurt its very clear.

[TheRed]

12 minutes ago, Icege said:

If I were referring specifically to you, I would be up front with that. There were plenty of posts while skimming through that immediately deflected fault to Ron. If you are included that group, feel free to be included. If not, feel free to not.

I mean, okay? I agreed with a poster in here about folks attempting to absolve Cam of all blame for whatever reasons they might have? I don't know what kind of history the two of you have so whatever that might be in particular, please keep it between y'all in the Tinderbox and leave me out of it. I didn't join in the conversation to defend that individual, I joined in to make a quip about the hypocrisy of folks that roll their eyes in frustration when they hear about buttery mails only to engage in the exact same behaviour (complete with righteous indignation).

Bruh... if there is any hand-wringing over Cam it's whether or not he's going to be ok. The front page is mostly threads worried about Cam's health and damning the coaching staff for not immediately declaring him a scratch vs. ATL. 

9 threads concerned about Cam's health
3 threads criticizing Cam
1 thread about pro bowlers
1 threads about firing Rivera
1 thread about our defense
9 random other threads
5 draft/offseason threads

I can definitely understand where shitty posters agreeing with a perspective I might have can be off-putting, but I promise that it isn't coming from the same source as their's. Tb100, I should blame Rivera more due to him being the head coach... but Ron has taught me to never expect anything from him other than blistering mediocrity and disappointment (now I know how my dad felt with me lmao). Cam, on the other hand, I know that he is better and expect him to be. So long as he learns from it, okay, but it is especially frustrating after the taunting penalty he received a few games ago for dropping the ball down on that defender that kept swatting at it. Maybe he needs two strikes because he thrives under pressure, idk, but I want him to see him in command of the game. At this point with Rivera I'm just happy that he isn't chewing the tarp and clapping his cheeks.

I don't really have much issue with what you've laid out here.

Obviously we know Cam is injured. The discussion is getting ugly because either directly or indirectly posters are in fact implying Cam is either too dumb or just doesn't care to call a timeout because he'd rather do a celebration. There's really no other implication you can make there. Especially after we all watched the same Eagles game where he rallied the offense for the comeback win. If the offense is this much of a roller coaster, there are clearly more than execution issues at play. That's not absolving Newton for turning the ball over. Some of these issues can and have been masked though. To do that however you need your coaching staff dialed in too. Remember how quick Ron was to challenge that down by contact play? If we can quickly coordinate on that, why on earth can't we have protocols in place on calling timeouts with the lead on the line heading into halftime? Preparation has been a consistent issue for this team throughout the season. You can only put that on the players for so long. Especially after seeing how quickly our defense turned things around against one of the best offenses in the league with mostly the same players that were getting torched mere weeks before.

Oh, and that taunting penalty you are referring to was super ticky tacky. I distinctly remember that.

[SOJA]

Cam made a remarkable play and got laid out. He probably thought to himself as he was under a pile of guys, "surely my coach is smart enough to stop the clock here while I'm getting clobbered."

 

In fact, when Ron saw Cam getting up and celebrating, shouldn't he have thought to himself "Oh poo that's right i'm the coach lol"

[Manther]

20 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

Seriously.  No one likes you.  Do you have any friends?

[Manther]

1 hour ago, SOJA said:

Cam made a remarkable play and got laid out. He probably thought to himself as he was under a pile of guys, "surely my coach is smart enough to stop the clock here while I'm getting clobbered."

 

In fact, when Ron saw Cam getting up and celebrating, shouldn't he have thought to himself "Oh poo that's right i'm the coach lol"

THIS!!! 11 guys on the field and coaches all standing on the sidelines with their dick in the hands while Cam fends of defenders from deep in the shotgun to make the first down, and he is the ONLY one to call time out?

Some people are so stupid they think ONLY THE QB can call timeout.  Morons.  Seriously, just dumb as poo can be.

[TheSpecialJuan]

4 hours ago, PantherGuy said:

Good God @TheSpecialJuan you have a serious distaste for Cam...to put it mildly

I'm just trying to bring a little levity to an otherwise depressing situation. 

Cam has his issues but after this you can never again question his toughness. 

[Paa Langfart]

9 hours ago, Manther said:

Is he supposed to do everything?  Really?

He is the on field general of the offense and he gets paid over a million dollars a game.  Yes he should do everything.  He should be held accountable for poor decisions that lose us games.  Just as Rivera should be as well.

[Manther]

32 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

He is the on field general of the offense and he gets paid over a million dollars a game.  Yes he should do everything.  He should be held accountable for poor decisions that lose us games.  Just as Rivera should be as well.

Just want to make sure I understand your logic here.  So everyone, coach and players,  must wait for the guy who just ran the ball, was tackled, and was at the bottom of the pile to get out of the pile and signal for a time out.  That's your strategy?  That is what you would plan to do?  Really?

[HornetsSting]

I must say that you my friend are a rare type.. It takes skill to post a negative Newton post here and get 10 pies. Kudos to you

[Navy_football]

As soon as the whistle blew, the HC should have been in the refs ear calling timeout.

Could Cam have done it after he got up? Yes, of course.

But how many times do you see a running back or wide receiver tackled in bounds, and then calls the timeout? Almost never. Someone else - another player or the HC - does it instead. 

Why do we constantly look for reasons to pile on Cam? Maybe he'll come back next season with his Carlton/Russell Wilson voice and vocabulary. That way everyone will love him and he can finally win that elusive Super Bowl.

[thefuzz]

2 hours ago, Navy_football said:

As soon as the whistle blew, the HC should have been in the refs ear calling timeout.

Could Cam have done it after he got up? Yes, of course.

But how many times do you see a running back or wide receiver tackled in bounds, and then calls the timeout? Almost never. Someone else - another player or the HC - does it instead. 

Why do we constantly look for reasons to pile on Cam? Maybe he'll come back next season with his Carlton/Russell Wilson voice and vocabulary. That way everyone will love him and he can finally win that elusive Super Bowl.

WR's nor RB's typically call TO in that situation, the HC and QB are usually the ones to do that.

Cam didn't.  Ron didn't.

Both are at fault, with Ron holding a bit more of the poo bag.