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How much longer is our Super Bowl window?


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The Matt Kalil contract closed it.  When you pay that much for damaged goods to try to solidify an already subpar line, you're going nowhere.  Sitting Cam next season would possibly put us back in SB conversations the season after if Cam is back healthy.

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tbqh in today's league, if you aren't the New England Patriots, it is a toss up. The window could be open at any point.

I think they've proven to be the most consistent at keeping the window open, even with a revolving door roster.

That is what the Panthers should aspire to. Not overpaying/overplaying veterans out of stubbornness, getting your guys to play within your system while also playing to your guys' strengths, and outsmarting/outcoaching the team on the other field is how you win football games now.

I don't hate on the Pats as much as a lot of people do. I respect what they've done a whole lot.

We've got core guys to still build around. Cam and Luke are aging, sure. But we've got younger pieces in place too, like CMC, DJ, Samuel, Moton, Thomas, and Jackson that we can build around.

I don't lose hope for us too much. When I do, it is usually in the coaching or in the fan base.

 

You can get the players. You just have to get them to play.

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10 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

It's closed. We have to go through a mini rebuild and start to open a new window.  Cam has probably 10 more years. The main focus needs to be getting him fully healthy and in the meantime fixing the offensive line. The goal needs to be to have a top 5 oline every year. Then inject talented youth into the front 7 of the defense. Do those things and we will be well on our way

lol ten years? he might be done for all we know

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1 hour ago, Bronn said:

tbqh in today's league, if you aren't the New England Patriots, it is a toss up. The window could be open at any point.

I think they've proven to be the most consistent at keeping the window open, even with a revolving door roster.

That is what the Panthers should aspire to. Not overpaying/overplaying veterans out of stubbornness, getting your guys to play within your system while also playing to your guys' strengths, and outsmarting/outcoaching the team on the other field is how you win football games now.

I don't hate on the Pats as much as a lot of people do. I respect what they've done a whole lot.

We've got core guys to still build around. Cam and Luke are aging, sure. But we've got younger pieces in place too, like CMC, DJ, Samuel, Moton, Thomas, and Jackson that we can build around.

I don't lose hope for us too much. When I do, it is usually in the coaching or in the fan base.

 

You can get the players. You just have to get them to play.

^ Bronn is more than a good swordsman

There is no window in the NFL since FA.

The teams that always do well consistently draft well, have good coaching, and use FA to round off the roster, and have an elite QB or one on a rookie deal.

If we didn't have a poo GM after r1 and in FA, a poo HC, we'd have a hell of a lot better chance to do some poo. Actually draft well, especially in the later rounds(something this team NEVER does) and you have a shot any year. We've picked up some players due to our early picks but our FA is always trash.

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I suppose the good news is that we at least had a shot at the SB with Cam. They failed. If Cam's shoulder is done then we'll start the long and painful rebuilding process. If his shoulder recovers, then I'd blow up the cap and put together a mega team to try in win the SB in a one shot deal. The Panthers will never do that though, so it would be a few more years with Cam behind a shaky line and no #1 WR. You'd almost have to get lucky for a SB win under that scenario, but it could happen so the window would be open.

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16 minutes ago, pantherj said:

1.) Luke could vanish and the window could still be open.

2.) The window is already closed if Cam's shoulder is done.

3.) The window is officially shut if Cam returns next season and can't throw deep.

I believe we were not far off this year. The 6-2 record proves that. Hate to say this but Captain was our biggest liability! We still found ways to score, but teams would just focus on Captain and poof third and long becomes a first down.

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Just now, philit99 said:

I believe we were not far off this year. The 6-2 record proves that. Hate to say this but Captain was our biggest liability! We still found ways to score, but teams would just focus on Captain and poof third and long becomes a first down.

Captain was done toward the end of his time with the Vikings. The thing that Captain had was his speed, and he was really fast for his size. Father time took his legs, and now we just have a undersized JAG with mediocre speed.

We have a lot of talent on offense, and a healthy Cam plus a retooled defense puts us in the hunt. The problem is Cam's shoulder might be permanently damaged, and that would shut the window until a new QB can be found and developed.

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