Matt Kalil a panther in 2019?

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Then cut him, and give away that the Panthers are targeting a tackle in the first round, whatever. I've always hated the Matt Kalil signing, said it was an awful contract, absurd, and wanted Andrew Whitworth at the time.

Like I said before, teams scout each other. They pretty well know each other's needs. They even hold their own mock drafts in preparation for the draft. Honestly, knowing what a team might do in the draft really only matters in terms of pulling the trigger on a trade to jump in front of someone.

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Then cut him, and give away that the Panthers are targeting a tackle in the first round, whatever. I've always hated the Matt Kalil signing, said it was an awful contract, absurd, and wanted Andrew Whitworth at the time.

If any of the other 31 teams don't know we want a LT badly they are not working too hard or don't care. 

I agree about Whitworth but JR was throwing his weight around and we ended up with his darling's brother, Gettleman did the dirty deed and Rivera is still finding excuses for keeping this mistake around. Now the fans are finding another reason to accept mediocrity because if we take it one more year, it will be better next year and yet it just stays the same in new ways. Keeping Kalil is a classic example of Ron finding ways to keep know people because of the fear of the unknown. Acting like it was only up to Hurney in the presser was pretty funny considering how well and much they like working together. Dude wouldn't know accountability if it hit him between the eyes. 

[MHS831]

If he was asked, what is he supposed to say? MH will make the call. Where RR screws up is when he acts like the decision is his---just shut up.  I would say, as of today, he is on the roster and competing for the LT job.

If RR and MH  decided to start Matt--then they deserve to lose their jobs.

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

If he was asked, what is he supposed to say? MH will make the call. Where RR screws up is when he acts like the decision is his---just shut up.  I would say, as of today, he is on the roster and competing for the LT job.

If RR and MH  decided to start Matt--then they deserve to lose their jobs.

I would just say that pretending that he didn't have input or have a better response is typical and lame. 

[MHS831]

20 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I would just say that pretending that he didn't have input or have a better response is typical and lame. 

He has input (I am not sure I understand your response) but talking to the press about this in February does nothing productive.  You do not have to say anything.

 

[Car123]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

If any of the other 31 teams don't know we want a LT badly they are not working too hard or don't care. 

I agree about Whitworth but JR was throwing his weight around and we ended up with his darling's brother, Gettleman did the dirty deed and Rivera is still finding excuses for keeping this mistake around. Now the fans are finding another reason to accept mediocrity because if we take it one more year, it will be better next year and yet it just stays the same in new ways. Keeping Kalil is a classic example of Ron finding ways to keep know people because of the fear of the unknown. Acting like it was only up to Hurney in the presser was pretty funny considering how well and much they like working together. Dude wouldn't know accountability if it hit him between the eyes. 

Huddlers need to stop with this. JR didn't orchestrate the signing. 

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Huddlers need to stop with this. JR didn't orchestrate the signing. 

He was more hands on then you are willing to admit. The fact that he re-hired Hurney is proof of that. 

[Car123]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

He was more hands on then you are willing to admit. The fact that he re-hired Hurney is proof of that. 

Where is the proof that he forced the Kalil signing?

[MHS831]

"The Panthers also still need depth at offensive tackle with Daryl Williams' status up in the air as a pending free agent. The team might as well keep Kalil around at least until June and then re-evaluate the situation. "

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/panthers-likely-stuck-with-offensive-tackle-matt-kalil-for-at-least-another-year/ar-BBUcX2a

[LinvilleGorge]

Yeah, he's been using the health excuse for years to excuse himself for his sucking. Maybe it's true. Maybe he is seriously hampered by health issues. But at this point it is what it is. He either just plain sucks or his body isn't physically cut out for NFL football and that causes him to just plain suck. Either way, the point is that he sucks.

[bandu]

no & no absolutely not, should we retain Matt Kalil services.

[Waldo]

24 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Where is the proof that he forced the Kalil signing?

Where is the proof he didn't have a hand in it?

He was a meddling owner that fired the GM for not doing what he wanted 4 months later. It's not very hard and I really wish someone would speak because that offseason was crazy.

[JARROD]

The answer is on the roster,...

yuck

[AU-panther]

I don't really want to get in the argument of the definition of "cost" so maybe I can put this a different way.

If you cut him this year, the team is going to have to account for $14.7m in cap cost in the future.  Whether you spread it out with a June 1st designation is irrelevant to the point I'm making.

If you keep him this year and release him next year the team will have to account for roughly $21.9m in cap cost. 

Is his one year of service this year worth $7.2m?  Honestly that same type of question should be asked about every player on your roster.

Can you replace his production for $7.2m.  If the answer is no you keep him.  If the answer is yes you let him go.