Love or Butler at NT?

[AU-panther]

I've stated this several times in different threads but apparently it is missed by most.

Why does everyone automatically put Love at NT and Butler at DE if we go 3-4.  Butler is actually a lot bigger.

Last game of last year we ran some 3-4 looks.  I went back and looked at the personnel groupings.

All are listed as DE, NT, DE

Cox, Butler, Love

Cox, Butler, Love

Butler, Poe, Addison

Peppers, Poe, Butler

Love, Poe, Horton

Love, Poe, Peppers

Haynes, Butler, Poe

Peppers, Poe, Butler

I'm sure I missed some plays but I didn't see Love playing NT at all.  From what I could tell Short didn't play that game so I'm sure that will change the rotation but I find it interesting that Butler was used as the back up NT.

Based on this my best guess is :

3-4 DEs:  Short, Love, Butler, Cox

3-4 NTs:  Poe and Butler

I personally think we will still added another D-lineman.  Also I'm not sure what to make of Obada.  Maybe they use him as a DE on rushing downs.  Not sure how much he can bulk up.  Also I wouldn't put much in the fact that Addison and Haynes got snaps as 3-4 DEs.  They are going to be OLBs, those were probably passing situations where we changed our look at the last minute.

 

 

 

[Malt Liquor]

42 minutes ago, YETI said:

Bc he wont even make the team. We’ll sign Allen Bailey 

Please god let this happen because all I know about Vernon Butler is that he owns a pair of Balenciaga shoes. Atleast that's what he said during his first and only press conference. Oh yeah, and him and Dave Gettleman had lunch........Dude is a bust. 

[MasterAwesome]

No idea why people always pencil in Love at NT...the best guess I can make is that people see that iconic picture of Love with his voluptuous 8-month pregnant belly hanging out unapologetically and they assume he’s like 375 pounds.

He’s almost the exact same size as Short and with a similar skill set.

[Lumps]

Would be nice to have Star. He’d be excellent at NT imo.

Bulter or Love? My thoughts would be Poe or KK. KK would be best but he’s seems to be on vacation since he got paid and Poe I don’t think would be better than average.

I honestly think a legit 3-4 NT is the biggest thing this team is missing.

[SetfreexX]

Because even though hes bigger Butlet is a 3 tech not a 0. Hes bigger yes, but his skillset doesn't match that of a traditional 0. Hes not a space eater. 

Imo he suffers from a similar issue to young talent. He's been stuck behind Star, Kk, and Poe. I'm neither up or down on him, I'm hoping the 34 looks will allow him an opportunity but dude gets no snaps consistently to make a mark. 

[The Huddler]

Butler is going to start at 3-4 DE and he's going to shine. Ill come back to this later and gloat after the season. 

[PleaseCutStewart]

I don't think we have a backup to Poe at DT, which isn't good because Poe got destroyed when he was double teamed last year and will happen almost every time to him in a 3-4 set.

Butler definitely can't manage being a NT, and not sure Love can either

[steven8989]

3 hours ago, The Huddler said:

Butler is going to start at 3-4 DE and he's going to shine. Ill come back to this later and gloat after the season. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Butler is a NT IMO. For some reason, Panthers fans seem to think this guy is a great athlete. Go back and look at his combine numbers. They screamed JAG. Literally nothing special in any category.

 

[Eazy-E]

Neither is a nose tackle. Don’t be surprised when we cut Butler and sign a 3-4 d lineman with actual experience.