Panthers Sign WR Aldrick Robinson

[TheSpecialJuan]

[TheSpecialJuan]

[Turnip]

Just now, stbugs said:

We can rollover whatever we don’t use, which is how some of these teams end up with ridiculously large cap space. He’s a waste of cap and I’d rather use it elsewhere. If Smith is pressed into real action we are in such bad shape that we’ll already be thinking about draft picks so roll the $5m over. 

Plus, down the line we're going to have a lot of talented young guns to resign so that extra cap will be needed.

[RealBitsOfPanther]

Solid signing. 

[kungfoodude]

16 minutes ago, stbugs said:

We can rollover whatever we don’t use, which is how some of these teams end up with ridiculously large cap space. He’s a waste of cap and I’d rather use it elsewhere. If Smith is pressed into real action we are in such bad shape that we’ll already be thinking about draft picks so roll the $5m over. 

Hahahaha. I don't think it is as dire as you are describing but I had forgotten about the ability to roll over the cap space, so that is a very, very valid point. It's fine. He may not even make the roster anyway. In his defense(not that I am doing much more than being a devil's advocate) he is easily the most productive WR on our roster historically. If 3-4 years ago Smith were to emerge, he could legitimately be a big weapon for us. Admittedly, I am highly skeptical of that being the case.

Let's let it play out and see if he even makes the roster.

[TheSpecialJuan]

I really feel you guys are being too harsh on Aldrick Robinson. What we need is for all of us to be supportive, positive, and welcome Mr. Robinson with open arms and open asses. 

[bababoey]

30 minutes ago, stbugs said:

We can rollover whatever we don’t use, which is how some of these teams end up with ridiculously large cap space. He’s a waste of cap and I’d rather use it elsewhere. If Smith is pressed into real action we are in such bad shape that we’ll already be thinking about draft picks so roll the $5m over. 

The rollover part only counts at the end of the season.  So if Smith does not make it through training camp it will have the same effect.  We have almost 10 million in cap space now and will get another 7 million in 2 weeks so cap space now doesn't matter much.

[45catfan]

Smith is extra cap weight at this point.  To me Wright > Smith plus with Moore and Samuel on the rise, there's no need to keep him around.  The "leader" in the position group room is greatly overstated.  That's the reason you have 3-to-4 levels of coaches.  Honestly, if it's up to players to teach/mentor other players, then our coaching staff are derelict in their duties.  Keeping $5 million on the books for a motivational speaker in the WR room is ridiculous to me.  If Smith is not our #1 or #2 guy (and he's not), he can't justify his cap figure, neither can the team.  Like others have said, get the cap relief and move on.

[XOBlackxJokerOX]

5 hours ago, PanthersBigD said:

He scored 5 touchdowns out of his 17 receptions last year. It's the off-season. No reason we shouldn't kick the tires. We kept Brenton Bersin on the team for how many seasons?

Plus there's nothing wrong with adding more talent to the field. Some guys are JAGs, some guys are situational. 

[cookinbrak]

2 things- How much did he cost, and how is he at chasing underthrown/overthrown balls?

[kungfoodude]

17 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It doesn’t matter this year. It’ll matter when Moton, CMC and Samuel are done with their contracts next year and Cam, Moore, Jackson and Thomas the year after.

Yeah, the amount of core or potential core guys coming up on contracts is about to get pretty crazy. This team could be shockingly different in a couple of seasons. 

[45catfan]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, the amount of core or potential core guys coming up on contracts is about to get pretty crazy. This team could be shockingly different in a couple of seasons. 

Agreed, and the reason saving cap money is very important even with a few million here and there.  Consistently being then the bottom 1/4 of teams in cap space every year isn't a good trend (usually even lower).  It's a not a complete truism that competitive teams are cap poor and crappy teams are cap rich.  It tends to work out that way in many cases, but there are plenty of exceptions.

Cap space ranking (most cap money to least) as of today May 17th for the twelve playoff teams from last year:  1, 2, 9, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 26, 27 and 28.

The Colts are #1 in cap space and Pats are #28.  The median and average cap money rank is 15th. The 15th team in terms of cap space are the Cowboys who have just under $15 million remaining (weird how that actually worked out).  This is considering most of the team's acquisitions are completed. The Panthers are 23rd, BUT have a slew of contracts pending in the near future as was pointed out.  The team will need a lot more than the nearly $10 million it is sitting on as of now if it wants to avoid another veteran salary purge that tends to occur roughly every three years from cap constraints.

2019 cap space

[brandon_87]

7 hours ago, joemac said:

Not really....

61 of Aldrick Robinson's 86 career catches have either moved the chains or scored a touchdown and he's averaged 16.5 yards per catch (3.6 YAC/rec) in his career.  He moves the chains and scores TDs.  Plus hes fast.

So basically, we will use him as a diversion so we can throw more checkdowns?

[ColumbusCounty]

49 minutes ago, brandon_87 said:

So basically, we will use him as a diversion so we can throw more checkdowns?

As long as we win, the whole offense can be checkdowns as far as I'm concerned.