REPORT: Panthers interested in Gerald McCoy

[LinvilleGorge]

26 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 It’s just a one year/ 11M deal. Which is probably all he will get anyhow. Make the option years higher at 15M so if he balls out you could possibly use the option as an alternative to KK. 

  Sure it’s “pie in the sky wishful thinking” but when people ask why the Pats and Eagles have so many comp picks, this is why. Contracts like Torrey Smiths. Only we aren’t smart enough to actually take advantage of them. 

Torrey Smith? There's no comp pick consideration for traded players.

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Torrey Smith? There's no comp pick consideration for traded players.

I just used his contract as an example. If we didn’t pick up his option in March, we would have gotten comp pick consideration for him when he signed with another team. Once we picked it up, he would have to be cut, this no comp pick. 

 With Smith it wouldn’t have mattered much, because he wasn’t getting much from anyone. But it’s the easiest example as most are familiar with the details. 

 Has nothing to do with trade. 

[Snake]

You have to think if their is any competitor in McCoy he will want to face the bucs. If not we don't want him anyway. KK and McCoy could be extremely disruptive with Poe anchoring.

[ncsfinest21]

I see it like this. If we acquire about him, we have money and a way to get him payed. How we do is beyond me because I see our cap is almost maxed out. But I believe they have a way to be able to sign him somehow if he doesnt sign with the Browns or Ravens.

[beastson]

I hope we get him.

[Woodie]

6 hours ago, ncsfinest21 said:

I see it like this. If we acquire about him, we have money and a way to get him payed. How we do is beyond me because I see our cap is almost maxed out. But I believe they have a way to be able to sign him somehow if he doesnt sign with the Browns or Ravens.

Maxed out???  We currently have almost 10 million in cap space and are about to add another 7+ million from the Kalil cut in a week.  By no means are we maxed out, or even cap strapped in the slightest.

The issue isn't whether we have the money to sign him (we do), it's whether the team feels his value is worth the price it will take to get him.

[Peon Awesome]

Yeah it sounds like we could afford him. The thing that makes me wary of a deal is that we could go one of two ways:

1. Sign a 1 year deal for $11-12 million with no long term risk if his age catches up to him or he starts wearing down from his injuries. This only makes sense if we think we are a DT away from super bowl contention this year because then we lose him next year and still don't have a succession plan after we invariably cut Poe and get rid of Butler.

2. We give him a 3 year, 30 million deal, but then if he starts showing his age or perhaps isn't as effective in our system, we're saddled with a decent sized contract for at least a couple years. Now suddenly we're paying 3 defensive tackles way more than they're worth while having holes to fill elsewhere in the roster.

I was hoping he was looking at something in the 7-8 million range, in which case I'd say go for it. Once $11 million was leaked as the going price, I'm thinking we should bow out of this one and go for a more affordable option like Bailey if we still think we need to shore up the position. 

[panthers55]

22 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

Yeah it sounds like we could afford him. The thing that makes me wary of a deal is that we could go one of two ways:

1. Sign a 1 year deal for $11-12 million with no long term risk if his age catches up to him or he starts wearing down from his injuries. This only makes sense if we think we are a DT away from super bowl contention this year because then we lose him next year and still don't have a succession plan after we invariably cut Poe and get rid of Butler.

2. We give him a 3 year, 30 million deal, but then if he starts showing his age or perhaps isn't as effective in our system, we're saddled with a decent sized contract for at least a couple years. Now suddenly we're paying 3 defensive tackles way more than they're worth while having holes to fill elsewhere in the roster.

I was hoping he was looking at something in the 7-8 million range, in which case I'd say go for it. Once $11 million was leaked as the going price, I'm thinking we should bow out of this one and go for a more affordable option like Bailey if we still think we need to shore up the position. 

I think it will take a 3 year deal to entice him. But if you can keep the signing bonus to lets say 10 million and guarantee year 1 salary of 4 million he gets his 14 million out of the gate and we guaranteed all of it. If we guarantee his second year salary of 7 million we are guaranteeing 21 million of his 30 million which is a ton but honestly he has shown to be consistent and productive. With KK and Poe with him they would be productive.  Year three is still a manageable 9 million although his cap would be 12.  Three years from now that will be a huge bargain.

 

[The Huddler]

he left cleveland without a contract.  good news with that one. onto Baltimore

[steven8989]

I read Panthers we're just kicking the tires not going to happen. WTH does that crap mean. Either u want to sign a guy or u don't.

[LinvilleGorge]

12 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

I read Panthers we're just kicking the tires not going to happen. WTH does that crap mean. Either u want to sign a guy or u don't.

"Interest" doesn't necessarily equate to SERIOUS interest. I'm sure lots of teams would be interested in a player like McCoy at the right price for them, but that right price for them may or may not end up being anywhere near what ends up being his market value. The only way to find out is to call his agent to get a feel of what they're looking for. That very well could've been the extent of the Panthers' "interest".

[musicman]

If the Patriots or Rams or another top contender don't want him, he just might for about $10 mil this year if he thinks we can win this year or next. Maybe 2 years to spread it out. I think it's a great move and would give us plenty of tools of the D-line going forward, especially in case of injury. KK, Poe, Love, McCoy, Mario, Irvin, Burns & Miller (maybe Obada or Cox or Haynes) as the 9th &/or 10th. A lot of speed and pass rushing ability. Also a good pass rush will help the need at FS as being critical. 

[hepcat]

Based on what I've seen so far, I think McCoy's "I want to win" comment isn't totally true. It looks like he wants to play for a team that might contend but will also pay him the most money. And it also looks like he wants to stay far away from the NFC South based on who he visited right away. So I'd say it's pretty unlikely he signs with the Panthers. 

[panthers55]

From what I read Baltimore sounds like they want him and his familiarity with their D line coach who coached him in Tampa makes them a prime candidate. If they don't sign him which I think they will, he would be a good fit here.