Allen should not be QB2

[jtm]

2 hours ago, Vagrant said:

the second string quarterback among this group is largely ornamental. if cam were to get seriously injured and not be able to play, we'd be shopping outside the organization for a veteran quarterback to start those games. there's no way they'd trust allen or grier to start nfl games right now. those two are the same age and we're just trying to find out which of them has long term nfl upside. 

If true, someone should get fired because we have some legit talent on this team and a solid back up could still take this team deep in the playoffs

[TheSpecialJuan]

10 hours ago, Shocker said:

Cut them all and pick up Cardale Jones (or offer a later pick for him).  He looked really good last night.

he's a fatty 

[TheSpecialJuan]

2 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Derek Anderson corpse is better than what we have as back ups right now

[GoPanthers123]

Well if Allen is not good and Cam can’t play we will have a high draft pick.  I consider another possibility, Allen goes Tom Brady mode in regular season and we win it all this year.  

 

Most likely Cam plays for another 5-6 years and then we can talk about who will take over, now it’s too early.

[OneBadCat]

Allen has still performed the best in real games. Even if it was Saints against back ups. The touch and poise was better than what anyone showed this preseason. He’s still the best back up.

Grier looks nervous as hell out there and he’s thrown a few picks that reflect that. I’ll give him the season and next preseason to improve.

[The Question]

At this point it’s just got to be something like Cam doesn’t like him or something because there’s no logic to this move. People can say ohh you obviously think you’re smarter than an nfl coach or you’re looking at pre season stats, no. You can CLEARLY tell Heineke is more developed, mobile, pocket presence and can operate the offense for touchdown drives. There’s just something else behind it.

[Carl Spackler]

5 hours ago, The Question said:

At this point it’s just got to be something like Cam doesn’t like him or something because there’s no logic to this move. People can say ohh you obviously think you’re smarter than an nfl coach or you’re looking at pre season stats, no. You can CLEARLY tell Heineke is more developed, mobile, pocket presence and can operate the offense for touchdown drives. There’s just something else behind it.

No there’s not. It’s pretty simple. Heinicke is not durable enough and he doesn’t have a very strong arm. People wanna nitpick Grier’s passes — Heinicke threw some ducks too. They all do. Heinicke is a great story but doesn’t have the durability to hold up here. 

[ForJimmy]

REGULAR season stats

Heinicke 36/58 330 yards 1/3 TD to INT ratio. 61.7 rating

Allen 20/31 266 yards 2/0 TD to INT ratio.

108.8 rating.

 

Plus Heincke is small and has an injury history. Seems like an easy decision to me....

[Khyber53]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

REGULAR season stats

Heinicke 36/58 330 yards 1/3 TD to INT ratio. 61.7 rating

Allen 20/31 266 yards 2/0 TD to INT ratio.

108.8 rating.

 

Plus Heincke is small and has an injury history. Seems like an easy decision to me....

I liked Heincke a lot and had hoped he'd show out and get the job, but it didn't pan out. Those stats really help make your case, too. 

Allen's our guy and if he has to go out on the field, I'll be cheering for him.

And Grier, he may be the future or not, but he's not the present yet. He needs to season for a season or two.

Still, this is Cam's team and Cam's town. Here's hoping Superman is back.