40% completion rate

[Anybodyhome]

21 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

hris Weinke had the opposite problem--could not throw across his body.  Cam can.  He tends to open up more throwing right, which causes the passes to sail a lot.  His shoulders are more open toward the target than at other times. 

This. And you don't need to be a coach or anything else. Anyone who ever pitched in baseball or played golf can attest to this.

Cam throws to the right and his whole body opens up because he's rotating to the right at the waist and not with his legs. Half the time he throws to the right his left foot is either straight in front of him or even to the left, which means his right shoulder is well behind his left and his torso is about 20-30 degrees off of his waist when the ball is out of his hand.

[Snake]

2 hours ago, rodeo said:

tinderboxers thought this was about cops.

it might be a combination of all those things really. the routes and having to get his body angled. maybe something to do with trusting his blind side, too, you have to really get your back turned to the LT to throw toward the right

Bingo he doesn't trust his LT. Honestly we need to start Little or move Moton to the left side. 

[Bartin]

This is Cam’s actual uncatchable percentage on all throws. Obviously not good but nowhere near 67%.

[Snake]

Just now, Bartin said:

This is Cam’s actual uncatchable percentage on all throws. Obviously not good but nowhere near 67%.

That's horrible. 

[Mr. Scot]

54 minutes ago, CRA said:

Not sure if his career factually supports it but I have always thought he went downfield to the left sideline better.  

I mean, that might just be a more glaring example of the relative norm for him. 

Most quarterbacks tend to do better throwing to one side than the other.

It's generally only a problem if their "bad side" is really really bad.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Bartin said:

This is Cam’s actual uncatchable percentage on all throws. Obviously not good but nowhere near 67%.

Seeing the company that he's in makes me wince a little.

[Bartin]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Seeing the company that he's in makes me wince a little.

Yeah it’s really bad and he’s farther from #2 than #2 is from #6

[TheRed]

18 minutes ago, CMCVP#22 said:

I’m sure it’s just a fluke Newton is gonna return to 2015 form any year now

How giddy are you to see your own QB failing?

What frontrunner fans like you don't realize is, the next QB whoever he is will be the top priority over any other position ten times out of ten. If you think we're paying any running back Dallas Cowboys kind of money when we're going to be desperately searching for a QB worth a damn, you're in for a rude awakening.

[rico6]

26 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Seeing the company that he's in makes me wince a little.

The fanbase was ready to trade the farm for Cousins last year lol

[Khyber53]

You'd also want to compare who was catching the passes on the left side more often. I'd be willing to be Olsen and CMC have worked that side more. Better targets improve reception completions.

Cam also tends to move, or flee, to his right, depending on the situation, bringing not just rushers, but also pulling DBs and LBs with him. Moving right and firing back to the left has been one of his bread and butter moves throughout his career.

That being said, even making for these allowances, this is far from his best work, even compared to some of the last half of last season. It's not just the arm strength, he just isn't as accurate as we has, even after the injury.

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Bartin said:

This is Cam’s actual uncatchable percentage on all throws. Obviously not good but nowhere near 67%.

These are the bottom six QBs in the NFL, which means that better than 81% of the NFL is better that these .  Now, among these bottom 18.75% only--if you exclude Cam---the average is 25.58% (basically, one pass in four).  Cam is 8.62% worse than the worst in the league. (one pass in three)

In other words, Cam has been far worse than the bottom fifth of the NFL.  This is alarming.

If this is rust, then you have rust problems in this order:

• Tin man, Wizard of Oz
• Golden Gate Bridge
• Cam Newton
• Titanic

[CRA]

Just now, MHS831 said:

These are the bottom six QBs in the NFL, which means that better than 81% of the NFL is better.  Now, among these bottom 18.75% only--if you exclude Cam---the average is 25.58% (basically, one pass in four).  Cam is 8.62% worse than the worst in the league.

In other words, Cam has been far worse than the bottom fifth of the NFL.  This is alarming.

 

in fairness to Cam. 

those numbers are based on a mere two games.  A comically small sample size.  So small, where basically one game can set a narrative.

and that 1 game happens to be a TNF game.  Where NFL history shows is consistently a showcase for bad football. 

[rico6]

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

These are the bottom six QBs in the NFL, which means that better than 81% of the NFL is better.  Now, among these bottom 18.75% only--if you exclude Cam---the average is 25.58% (basically, one pass in four).  Cam is 8.62% worse than the worst in the league. (one pass in three)

In other words, Cam has been far worse than the bottom fifth of the NFL.  This is alarming.

If this is rust, then you have rust problems in this order:

• Tin man, Wizard of Oz
• Golden Gate Bridge
• Cam Newton
• Titanic

Remember gaiz, don’t talk poo about Brees’ injured thumb, but shitting all over OUR QB? Open game, baby!

 

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

in fairness to Cam. 

those numbers are based on a mere two games.  A comically small sample size.  So small, where basically one game can set a narrative.

and that 1 game happens to be a TNF game.  Where NFL history shows is consistently a showcase for bad football. 

Also in fairness to Cam, I really wonder about the medical feedback this team is giving players---Williams knee (remember when he returned and blew it out?), Olsen's foot (last 2 years), and now Cam's shoulder.  What the hell is going on?