One Franchise tag.....Shaq and Bradberry who do you choose?

[DeAngelo Beason]

Bradberry.  It's way harder to find a stud corner than LB.

[Bronn]

You don't tag either. You get a new deal done this year.

[Forty-Eight]

56 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I created a thread on this before, but I figured it’s worth bringing up again. Both Shaq (25 years old) and Bradberry (26 years old) are free agents after this year. Shaq allows our defense to do so many things (he covered a wide receiver just like a cb last week along with his blitz ability) and is having an outstanding year so far. Bradberry is becoming one of the most consistent young CB’s in the game. NFL Teams would love to sign either one so which would to pick to get the tag? Do you believe we sign both to an extension or let one walk because of the cost? 

I think we messed up not signing at least one to an extension this past offseason, as the price continues to go up for both. 

Quote below from @PantherBrew post:

For too long, Shaq Thompson played behind Thomas Davis and was never utilized as an every down defender. Then Thomas Davis went to Los Angeles, and they finally gave him the keys to the 2004 Subaru Outback. He pairs perfectly with Kuechly. The transition has been seamless from one administration to the other. Thompson had 12 tackles, 7 solo, 1 sack, 1 tackle for a loss, 1 pass defensed, and 1 quarterback hit in this one to add to the other 19 solo tackles, 2 tackles for a loss, 1 quarterback hit, and 1 pass defensed he’s already made. This is the best game I’ve remembered seeing Thompson play. I’ll have to check and see what Pro Fartball Focus says first though.
Thompson blitzed well in this game when they decided to bring him. He sacks Watson on this second and twelve blitz. They bring three on the right. It’s big on big. Thompson v. Mancz. He tosses him like a Reggie White pass rush, and leaps to take away Watson’s ability to throw it at the feet of the out route. Also, Kuechly knows exactly where Watson wants to go with the ball. Once again, the Panthers are funneling Houston and taking away their outs.

Bradberry:

B. Cooks 2 rec 39yds

M. Evans 4 rec  61yds

L. Fitzgerlad 5 rec 36 yds

D. Hopkins 5 rec 41 yds

From @ellis:

 

 

 

We have more than enough money next year to keep both guys

 

and were you watching panther nation podcast? Bet u were

[Forty-Eight]

23 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Bradberry easily.  You can find a new young LB in the draft all the time. 

No you really dont. Took us forever to finally have Shaq perform like this. Look at this year’s guys. Devin Bush is doing okay, not elite. Devin White hasnt shown a thing and is hurt.

[Harbingers]

Bradberry obviously. But we shouldn’t be choosing between the two. They are both the future of this team. 

[Icege]

CB and LB franchise tags were nearly equal going into this season ($1M difference). With that being the case, I'd franchise Bradberry, but only until I got Shaq's deal worked out so that he wasn't lost to free agency if negotiations take awhile.

[thefuzz]

Dumb team.

[WarPanthers89]

12 minutes ago, Forty-Eight said:

We have more than enough money next year to keep both guys

 

and were you watching panther nation podcast? Bet u were

I was not.....but 34 million next year and a ton of free agents, many currently starting for us. It may not be as easy as you believe

[t96]

Honestly I say we lock them both up long term. Neither should command top 5 money at their positions but they have that level of impact for us.

[Peppers90 NC]

Biggest problem with Shaq, is he got paid well above his worth this year. Thankfully at least he has played above expectations. If he made $9M this year, would he settle for say a $7M average with is more in line with his position? Regardless, Bradberry has to be the first priority, upper tier CBs are much harder to find.

[Matt62881]

1 hour ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I created a thread on this before, but I figured it’s worth bringing up again. Both Shaq (25 years old) and Bradberry (26 years old) are free agents after this year. Shaq allows our defense to do so many things (he covered a wide receiver just like a cb last week along with his blitz ability) and is having an outstanding year so far. Bradberry is becoming one of the most consistent young CB’s in the game. NFL Teams would love to sign either one so which would to pick to get the tag? Do you believe we sign both to an extension or let one walk because of the cost? 

I think we messed up not signing at least one to an extension this past offseason, as the price continues to go up for both. 

Quote below from @PantherBrew post:

For too long, Shaq Thompson played behind Thomas Davis and was never utilized as an every down defender. Then Thomas Davis went to Los Angeles, and they finally gave him the keys to the 2004 Subaru Outback. He pairs perfectly with Kuechly. The transition has been seamless from one administration to the other. Thompson had 12 tackles, 7 solo, 1 sack, 1 tackle for a loss, 1 pass defensed, and 1 quarterback hit in this one to add to the other 19 solo tackles, 2 tackles for a loss, 1 quarterback hit, and 1 pass defensed he’s already made. This is the best game I’ve remembered seeing Thompson play. I’ll have to check and see what Pro Fartball Focus says first though.
Thompson blitzed well in this game when they decided to bring him. He sacks Watson on this second and twelve blitz. They bring three on the right. It’s big on big. Thompson v. Mancz. He tosses him like a Reggie White pass rush, and leaps to take away Watson’s ability to throw it at the feet of the out route. Also, Kuechly knows exactly where Watson wants to go with the ball. Once again, the Panthers are funneling Houston and taking away their outs.

Bradberry:

B. Cooks 2 rec 39yds

M. Evans 4 rec  61yds

L. Fitzgerlad 5 rec 36 yds

D. Hopkins 5 rec 41 yds

From @ellis:

 

 

 

No reason in messing around sign both....attempt to get them on team friendly deals explaining how we want to keep this entire team in tact for years to come! I think they will both take a few mil less then value to stay here. If you offer long contracts it should help!

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, Matt62881 said:

No reason in messing around sign both....attempt to get them on team friendly deals explaining how we want to keep this entire team in tact for years to come! I think they will both take a few mil less then value to stay here. If you offer long contracts it should help!

There is a little bit less than a zero % chance this would happen.

Bradberry for sure should have been signed in the offseason, that is a Hurney blunder.  Now both he and Shaq will be quite a bit more expensive, and are likely licking their chops for free agency.

 

[Forty-Eight]

1 hour ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Biggest problem with Shaq, is he got paid well above his worth this year. Thankfully at least he has played above expectations. If he made $9M this year, would he settle for say a $7M average with is more in line with his position? Regardless, Bradberry has to be the first priority, upper tier CBs are much harder to find.

Shaq is making peanuts for what he his performing right now. Kwon Alexander is making 13.5m a year. And Mosley is making 17m. What is Shaq now? An OLB of MLB? Man will get paid whether it’s us or someone else. He deserves it by playing like this. 

[carpanfan96]

Shaq gonna get a deal in 15-18m a season range because of the play level, his ceiling and athleticism.  Bradberry gets a few more interceptions this season and talking about Josh Norman Money all of a sudden.