A purely statistical analysis of Kyle Allen this season

[jfra78]

7 hours ago, Krovvy said:

Are they seriously using a two game sample size when Cam's foot was hurt? One of those games was against Tampa who sold out to stop Christian McCaffrey. What if we took two games from Allen, one being Tampa, and compared them as well?

The stats aren't showing that CMC is rushing better with Allen as much as it shows that he runs better when the QB is under center.  This is over his whole career and not just this season.  His point is that the Panthers use Kyle under center much more than they did with Cam,  it is well known that Cam preferred the shotgun.  

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

This team is good enough for a playoff run.  Our only glaring weakness is QB.

[GoobyPls]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

The stats aren't showing that CMC is rushing better with Allen as much as it shows that he runs better when the QB is under center.  This is over his whole career and not just this season.  His point is that the Panthers use Kyle under center much more than they did with Cam,  it is well known that Cam preferred the shotgun.  

Is there any RB that doesn’t run better with the QB under center? A great RB can only take you so far so most teams will build an offense around a QB strengths rather than the RB.

 

Mccaffrey had a better game rushing with Cam vs TB then with Allen. Mccaffrey also had statistically his second best game of the season with Cam vs the rams

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

This team is good enough for a playoff run.  Our only glaring weakness is QB.

Have you seen our run defense?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Have you seen our run defense?

The 49ers never saw them.

Derrick Henry didn't see much of them either, at least not when Mike Vrabel let him play.

[ellis]

The quarterback is not what I would consider a glaring weakness. He’s an average quarterback. He certainly has responded nicely to a very difficult situation, having to come in and guide group of vets that were 0-2. 
 

Some elements of the run defense concern me. I’m still not completely convinced elite edge rushers won’t destroy yes o-line rotation. There was very little interior pass rush against Tenn. 

 

[DeAngelo Beason]

I honestly never realized that Cam Newton was THIS popular.  Every single thread turns into a Cam Newton rally.

[DeAngelo Beason]

Plain and simple, this team would have have three wins tops with Cam Newton as the starter this year, and how healthy he is doesn't fugging matter at all.  He's not healthy, plain and simple.  "If" means exactly jack diddly poo.

[LinvilleGorge]

59 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The 49ers never saw them.

Derrick Henry didn't see much of them either, at least not when Mike Vrabel let him play.

They really did us a solid by inexplicably just not running the ball in the 1st half, then they had to play catch up the majority of the 2nd half forcing them to largely abandon the run.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They really did us a solid by inexplicably just not running the ball in the 1st half, then they had to play catch up the majority of the 2nd half forcing them to largely abandon the run.

I was absolutely baffled.

That was definitely one of those "what the hell are you doing" moments.

[mav1234]

50 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They really did us a solid by inexplicably just not running the ball in the 1st half, then they had to play catch up the majority of the 2nd half forcing them to largely abandon the run.

they did try to run in the first half, but also tried to stay balanced.  Ron indicated we actually went in with a plan on how to stop the run in the 1st half, they made adjustments at half time, and then we made adjustments on subsequent drives.  Seems possible.  

when they run on 1st down and we stop it / hold it to under 3 yards, it changes drives. that happened repeatedly in the fist half.  not so much in the 2nd.

[Mr. Scot]

I really think that fake punt did a lot to demoralize them.

[pantherclaw]

Stupid question. 

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

they did try to run in the first half, but also tried to stay balanced.  Ron indicated we actually went in with a plan on how to stop the run in the 1st half, they made adjustments at half time, and then we made adjustments on subsequent drives.  Seems possible.  

when they run on 1st down and we stop it / hold it to under 3 yards, it changes drives. that happened repeatedly in the fist half.  not so much in the 2nd.

They had five total called runs in the first half.