Kyle Allen Has Shown Enough

[1of10Charnatives]

14 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

His numbers right now realistically would have most teams looking for other options... So far 13tds and 11TO 2,173 yards and a 61.7 completion percentage .. Would be avg. Or below avg. Rookie season for the QB'S coming out now... If these numbers stay around the same.. This wouldn't be a QB you build around or make your franchise guy.. If you want to be a consistent winner in this league.. Plain and simple. 

Right.

Except one thing. No one really expects a qb with less than a full seasons worth of starts to continue to be the same going forward. You expect them to learn and improve as they get experience and game reps. The million dollar question with Allen is can he improve beyond a backup role. I think it’s possible, but by no means a given.

[BurnHurnBurn]

We won't cut him, so he's going to have to earn his spot like everybody else.  Hopefully under new staff.  But lets just get Ron fired first.  Then we can talk long term.

[WOW!!]

55 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Right.

Except one thing. No one really expects a qb with less than a full seasons worth of starts to continue to be the same going forward. You expect them to learn and improve as they get experience and game reps. The million dollar question with Allen is can he improve beyond a backup role. I think it’s possible, but by no means a given.

5 more games.. If he makes it all the way we will see where he stands . Right now He needs to do more and (be better) then hold that level consistently..

[Green-Ghost]

That's what I was trying to tell you.  Sometimes unknowns turn out to be really great.

And to think,  last week people were screaming for Colin Kaepernick. 

Team and Quarterback were playing hard today.   No quit.  No Shame in this loss.

 

[micnificent28]

I am of the probably in the camp most would call a Allen hater. I have been unimpressed by the better games he had against say Arizona and the other bottom defense. The previous 2 bombs at green bay and atlanta further confirmed my doubts. I'm not gonna pretend this saints game wasn't impressive. Hostile road game, saints defense isn't trash I dont think.

He did a lot of great things. No turnovers was good. Looking at his touchdowns I'm not sure they were those reading defenses and dissecting them kind we look for in a franchise qb or were they schemed open like the check down to cmc. I did come away more impressed and now learning to maybe he can be a game manager.. I say that just because his deep ball still looks shakey. I'm not sure you can build a franchise that way. I'm back to where I was before green bay.

[Khyber53]

4 hours ago, WOW!! said:

His numbers right now realistically would have most teams looking for other options... So far 13tds and 11TO 2,173 yards and a 61.7 completion percentage .. Would be avg. Or below avg. Rookie season for the QB'S coming out now... If these numbers stay around the same.. This wouldn't be a QB you build around or make your franchise guy.. If you want to be a consistent winner in this league.. Plain and simple. 

I'd rather have him, by far, than the first round QBs drafted by the Redskins or Giants. If you want a second year competitor, how about Josh Rosen over him? Me neither.

We may have found a diamond in the dollar bin. That diamond needs proper cuts and polish, but it just might turn into something pretty good. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

14 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

I'd rather have him, by far, than the first round QBs drafted by the Redskins or Giants. If you want a second year competitor, how about Josh Rosen over him? Me neither.

We may have found a diamond in the dollar bin. That diamond needs proper cuts and polish, but it just might turn into something pretty good. 

Well thankfully Ron's staff is known for its wizardry at coaching and developing QBs

[electro's horse]

worst case scenario he's at least as good as derek anderson and there are worse things in the nfl than having a really good backup

plus if you do draft/acquire someone else who fuging rocks you can move Allen in a couple years and fleece like the redskins or something

[TheBlue]

5 hours ago, Verge said:

He has shown enough that he deserves a shot at being our QB next year, along with whatever competition we bring in. He is more than a backup, and less than a franchise QB at the current moment.

no he doesnt. Cam is an actual franchise QB. This franchise deserves to be the redskins if we end up letting cam go. Kyle allen is nothing more than a decent back up. He is Derek Anderson. Thats it.

[MHS831]

Behind that offensive line, Brady would be booed out of this town. It is sad how many people do not see it.

Cam would have been injured behind this line, but this is not about Cam--it has not been about Cam for a while, but some of you hate Allen because you are latched onto one of our (probably former) QB's testicles.  That hurts your vision because all you can see is whatever one sees when latched onto a testicle.

I see Allen as a player who is slowly improving and bounces back.  I do not see pouting.  Here is the bottom line:  When Allen is protected, he is pretty good.  When he is not playing from behind, he is pretty good.

Build the OL and the defense, and Allen is a starting QB.  Judging a 23-year old who has about 2.5 seconds to throw is silly--if you think the problem is QB, then duh.

Romo (I know many of you think you know more than him, but I hated him as a player, love him as an announcer) saw things in Allen and pointed them out.  He is pretty intuitive.  I will trust his eye over some blind hugger's view.

 

 

[Khyber53]

43 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

Well thankfully Ron's staff is known for its wizardry at coaching and developing QBs

They did develop Cam. Besides him, this has been their first chance to do so. Their first one was the number one pick in the draft and they did wonders with him, even went to the Superb Owl before injuries began to take their toll. The current one, he's come from just the opposite start: undrafted free agent. First season (for all intents and purposes) and he shows some promise. It did take Cam four years to get to the Superb Owl, Allen may need the same.

Yeah, there's been some wizardry here and RR has developed a QB in house. So...

[Khyber53]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Behind that offensive line, Brady would be booed out of this town. It is sad how many people do not see it.

Cam would have been injured behind this line, but this is not about Cam--it has not been about Cam for a while, but some of you hate Allen because you are latched onto one of our (probably former) QB's testicles.  That hurts your vision because all you can see is whatever one sees when latched onto a testicle.

I see Allen as a player who is slowly improving and bounces back.  I do not see pouting.  Here is the bottom line:  When Allen is protected, he is pretty good.  When he is not playing from behind, he is pretty good.

Build the OL and the defense, and Allen is a starting QB.  Judging a 23-year old who has about 2.5 seconds to throw is silly--if you think the problem is QB, then duh.

Romo (I know many of you think you know more than him, but I hated him as a player, love him as an announcer) saw things in Allen and pointed them out.  He is pretty intuitive.  I will trust his eye over some blind hugger's view.

 

 

And there's someone making sense.

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

Their first one was the number one pick in the draft and they did wonders with him, even went to the Superb Owl before injuries began to take their toll.

yeah turning someone into a human battering ram tends to lead to those 

[aGDevil2k]

I like Superb Owls