Defending Rivera

[Mr. Scot]

@Doc Holiday, going back to a previous point, I do think if the next coach that were brought in were wise, he'd definitely give Chase Blackburn a chance.

If we don't, I'd be willing to bet somebody else will.

[rippadonn]

Rivera's only problem is not being an arshole. If he was he'd scare the backups into playing non-backup football. The ONLY NFL team that can consistently overcome injuries to starters is New England and even they can't get but so far.

No coach is any good without their best players playing.

Not a Rivera problem.

[mc52beast]

On 11/10/2019 at 11:31 PM, CBDellinger said:

I know it was reported and I can see it in Tepper.  But I don’t think it’s productive for an owner to freak out week to week in the nfl.  

the nfl is a business but running an nfl team from a football stand point is not like running a typical business. 

I doubt that Tepper “freaks out” on a weekly basis. Pretty sure he knew when he bought the team that there would be highs and lows. Also pretty sure that he can handle the losing, but maybe not the blowout variety so well... and he has a right to.

[Waldo]

Rivera has plenty of problems. He implemented a hybrid 4-3 and it looks terrible. He kept his DC, didn't hire someone to competently run that unit with the scheme transition which he has to do and he hasn't adjusted the failed defensive scheme because he is the effective DC. We are losing close games because of Rivera and his decisions, the injuries just make it that much more difficult to overcome. 

Nice guy but I can't wait to play against him. As time goes on, he grows more outdated and archaic. He will be a boon for a franchise trying to try it around. Kinda like Fox. 

[mc52beast]

Most wins as a coach in Panthers history

three straight division titles

2x COTY

players continue to play hard for him and never have a bad thing to say about him

Has had multiple defenses ranked in the top 10

This isn’t an endorsement for Ron, just thought I’d highlight some of the positives. I like the guy as a person, but I think maybe it’s time to move on. The same issues he had in year one he still has today.

[Mvp2014]

Not hiring a DC after the train wreck Washington was will do Ron in.  Inexcusable bc he should know better.  He shook Sinatra’s hand

[rippadonn]

Actually a very good coach. Players would run through brick walls for the guy. We bag on him but has the guy ever had a year without key starters going down on both lines, or QB. Wrong time to go to 3-4 especially without KK. Have we seen him with a healthy roster? Not since 15-1. Him and Marty are doing a great job duct taping this thing to hold together. Best staff on paper we've ever had but this particular group has only had two injury riddled years to put it together and they added a head coach candidate in Perry Fewell to coach the DBs. I know you guys want wins or else you almost have to look at it as a show and not real life because the NFL doesn't "favor" your team. Cams head knows that first hand and yes he may get those calls in Chicago. He knows it and I know it. Sad, but that's MOST teams in the NFL. They're not "favored". Ron isn't at the top of the list on this not winning thing. Washington Generals.

[Sgt Schultz]

What separates great NFL coaches from good ones is their ability to steal a win, especially in a big game.  Belichick wasn’t always the Belichick everybody loves/hates.  He became that by posting wins in a few big games where people walked away saying “what a great game plan.”  It is not just the plan, it is getting his players to execute it, which usually means the plan was formulated with their strengths in mind.

Rivera is much more of a “line up our guys against their guys and just try to inflict our will on them” guy.  That’s great if the opponent is the Bengals, Jets, or Dolphins and even then, it is not fool proof.  Sometimes it works against the right quality opponent.  For example, he always seems to fair well against New England, but in this article, he credits focusing on the things you would expect him to focus on (getting ahead, forcing them to abandon the run, pressuring Brady).

He’s held the wheels on this team so far this year under a situation that almost all of us would have predicted a complete crater after week two.  Not unlike Fox, Rivera brings stability.

But, I don’t think he is the guy who is going to steal wins.  He isn’t likely to be the guy who finds that wrinkle in a game plan that they ride to victory.  We don’t enter big games wondering “what is he going to come up with today?”  Neither do our opponents.

I think he is a good but not great HC, perhaps passed by the way the game has evolved, and his approach may be worn out here.  Nine years is an eternity as a NFL HC with one team.  Walsh lasted ten with the 49ers before hanging it up.  Parcells only eight with the Giants.  Gibbs lasted 12 in his first stint with the Redskins.  The Don Shulas, Bill Belichicks, and Chuck Knolls of the world are pretty rare.

[rippadonn]

The officials changed the momentum of the game when the Panthers seemed to gain the upper hand. Had it been fair we'd have had that safety 2pts and that ball back with good field position. They didn't want the Panthers to pull away and "win". The announcers and America can't deny it. At least we get to "win" sometimes and go to the Super Bowl.

[rippadonn]

I'm a day one Panther fan. Saw it all happen but if the Panthers are going to hand the Bears Ron and Cam I can't complain at all. I was born a Bears/Cubs fan. The NFL would "favor" a strong Bear team in the playoffs.

[rippadonn]

Why do you think everybody wants to play for New England?!? Because of Belicheat or "favor"?

[rippadonn]

You play and cheer because you love the game. Keep Pounding!!!

[raleigh-panther]

Year after year Seattle contends...no matter what

last year, Seattle totally gutted their defense and then was not afraid to upgrade with a trade 

they make the right draft choices for their system and trade for young  players to improve it

they get rid of old players 

they are similar to the Patriots  smart organization 

then we have Ron

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

And year after year we keep thinking "well Ron's at least good, maybe someday he can be great", so we continue waiting for it to happen.