DJ Moore perspective

[ncfan]

Moore didnt seem to start off to hot.  We can point fingers to why.

Smitty called him out as he called out the WR group the other week.   Moore has since responded.

But just saw a cool stat. And we forget how young Moore is.

 

 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

Nobody has patience anymore. Playing WR was considered one of the harder positions to learn for rookies. Now we expect everyone to play like seasoned vets year one.

Lots of people called Shaq a bust. Now people are panicking we may not be able to resign him. DJ Moore is a stud

[Snake]

DJ has but Samuel has regressed. Our offense just doesn't have much talent at any position besides QB and RB. 

[Snake]

Just now, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Nobody has patience anymore. Playing WR was considered one of the harder positions to learn for rookies. Now we expect everyone to play like seasoned vets year one.

Lots of people called Shaq a bust. Now people are panicking we may not be able to resign him. DJ Moore is a stud

Only Shaq suckers think that. Fact is our run defense has fell off since Davis left. 

[DeAngelo Beason]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

DJ has but Samuel has regressed. Our offense just doesn't have much talent at any position besides QB and RB. 

I don't think Samuel has regressed.  He just wasn't good to begin with.  He was a project player and a poor draft pick.

[Davidson Deac II]

Just now, Snake said:

Only Shaq suckers think that. Fact is our run defense has fell off since Davis left. 

It was regressing before he left.  Its been regressing since 2015.  And Shaq has nothing to do with our dline getting pushed around.  

[Captain Morgan]

I was contemplating starting a thread on this.  It's really hard to judge DJ and Curtis because of our troubles at QB and on OL.  With a healthy OL and QB for a full season, I think they'd be looking pretty damn good.  Curtis has not a single season where he was healthy and we had a healthy QB for the entire year.

DJ appears to be improving the most though, and I think he's got a chance to be our 1.

[Snake]

Just now, DeAngelo Beason said:

I don't think Samuel has regressed.  He just wasn't good to begin with.  He was a project player and a poor draft pick.

You could be right. Either way we are going to have to invest multiple drafts to fix our offense. 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

Only Shaq suckers think that. Fact is our run defense has fell off since Davis left. 

That’s a whole different story. And it’s not attributed to Davis as much as it is to losing Star IMO. If you remember, our run defense was TERRIBLE the season before we drafted Star and KK. Star doesn’t get enough credit for being an elite space eater because he didn’t get the sexy sack stats. But look at both our run defense since losing him and Luke’s career since losing him. Star did a LOT for this team and for freeing up Luke that goes under appreciated around here

[Snake]

Just now, Davidson Deac II said:

It was regressing before he left.  Its been regressing since 2015.  And Shaq has nothing to do with our dline getting pushed around.  

It's pretty obvious that teams run right at him while focusing on Luke. Both Davis and Luke pretty much could wrap their man up and take him down. Not try to blow him up while allowing 7 extra yards to do so. 

[t96]

5 minutes ago, Snake said:

DJ has but Samuel has regressed. Our offense just doesn't have much talent at any position besides QB and RB. 

I don’t think Samuel has regressed, but just not improved in other areas of the position as we hoped. He’s an elite deep threat but we just can’t get him the ball down the field for whatever reason (Kyle’s arm strength, OL, etc.). If we had 2015 Cam right now, Samuel would be putting up 1500 yards.

[Snake]

1 minute ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

That’s a whole different story. And it’s not attributed to Davis as much as it is to losing Star IMO. If you remember, our run defense was TERRIBLE the season before we drafted Star and KK. Star doesn’t get enough credit for being an elite space eater because he didn’t get the sexy sack stats. But look at both our run defense since losing him and Luke’s career since losing him. Star did a LOT for this team and for freeing up Luke that goes under appreciated around here

You are not wrong with that. We paid the wrong DT. 

[Snake]

Just now, t96 said:

I don’t think Samuel has regressed, but just not improved in other areas of the position as we hoped. He’s an elite deep threat but we just can’t get him the ball down the field for whatever reason (Kyle’s arm strength, OL, etc.). If we had 2015 Cam right now, Samuel would be putting up 1500 yards.

Samuel can't even catch with his hands and Allen throws a more catchable ball than Newton. 2015 Newton would have been drilling balls to WRs. The simple fact that Samuel doesn't understand you have to fight for the ball and come back to your QB when he's running is a perfect example of how he never will be a good WR. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Moore is a beast. Samuel can be better. He needs to be more consistent with his route running. I also think his biggest strength is his deep speed and that's not a great match with Allen or a bum shouldered Cam. I don't think we've really seen him in an ideal situation for him just yet.