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[Moo Daeng]

Other than the Ravens which team with a young QB is a real power? The Chiefs maybe but their defense is worse than ours.

The other top teams have Brees, Brady, and Wilson..

And Garapololo or Garapholo or whatever

[BurnHurnBurn]

Good News:  We're gonna fire everybody

Bad News: We're gonna fire everybody.

[Forty-Eight]

1 hour ago, luke262 said:

We have been hearing for years how its all about building around a qb on a rookie contract, but how many superbowls have been won by a qb on a rookie contract in the last twenty years? Last one I can think of seahwaks with Wilson? 

 Because Brady won all of them

[Moo Daeng]

Eagles kind of but Wentz didnt do the playoff winning.

[MasterAwesome]

24 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Other than the Ravens which team with a young QB is a real power? The Chiefs maybe but their defense is worse than ours.

The other top teams have Brees, Brady, and Wilson..

Yeah I was trying to figure out what he’s talking about...the Texans are a playoff team with Deshaun Watson too I guess? Definitely not a threat to win it all though.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

20 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Other than the Ravens which team with a young QB is a real power? The Chiefs maybe but their defense is worse than ours.

The other top teams have Brees, Brady, and Wilson..

I'd add Houston with Watson, the Colts if Brissett is healthy, Cowboys, Rams, Philly, and maybe Jacksonville if you consider Minshew a starter or not.

Granted, some of those already paid their QB. 

[Moo Daeng]

Just now, My Goodness My Guinness said:

I'd add Houston with Watson, the Colts if Brissett is healthy, Cowboys, Rams, Philly, and maybe Jacksonville if you consider Minshew a starter or not.

Granted, some of those already paid their QB. 

I dont think anything is significantly different about that mix.  Some good teams but not really contenders.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

2 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

I dont think anything is significantly different about that mix.  Some good teams but not really contenders.

I think this year we will see a bit of a changing of the times from the legacies in the last 10 years tbh. Right now you are right that these aren't the best teams in the league, but I'd consider any team that gets to the playoffs to be considered a contender in the NFL. The only real team without a shot at the playoffs here is Jacksonville. 

[cmichd]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

He looks very inconsistent. I think if a talent like Tua falls to us we take it. If not we see how Cam’s health is. If that looks bad we might have Allen and Grier battle it out... Maybe his inconsistencies can be fixed? Who knows?

It is called growing pains.  Even a Troy Aikman had them his first year.  How many games did he win that first year?

[CatTower]

Quickest way to contender status is hitting on a young QB.

Comparing us to Saints or Patriots is meaningless because they've had their QB for a very long time.  Those teams are also stacked.

 

Our situation is either take another shot with Cam or get moving on rebuilding.  Yepper already alluded he doesn't want long term mediocrity.  Maybe that means cutting Cam now.

[thefuzz]

A young, good, cheap QB provides you with the easiest path to being a good team.

As I pointed out in another thread, if Cam gets a deal to stay here he will average about 30M per season, if we are able to draft Tua at around 15, we will pay him 3-4M per season, giving us 25+M to help build around him, every season until year 5.

Does that guarantee you a SB?  No.  Does it give you the best shot at building a contender?  Yes, if you have the correct front office and coaching staff.

[Riverboat Ron]

It's the bs I knew would eventually take hold. Teams like the 49ers, Colts, Rams or Browns (lol) intentionally tank for 4 years and gather carry over cap space and top 10 draft talent. Get top talent on rookie deals then once your QB is in place spend that carry over space on free agents and keeping your young talent. 

The NFL needs to make the max carry over space $10 million or less.

[t96]

I disagree. I’d say the 3 best teams are coached by Harbaugh, Carroll, Belichick in that order, and these 3 are clearly above the rest.

[Mr. Scot]

Trends or no trends, we probably have a year or two of rebuild ahead before we're going to be a threat to anybody.