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Hurney 2.0 - The Best and The Worst moves

Jeremy Igo

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16 minutes ago, SmartyHurney said:

"Failed to address backup QB adequately"

That's some serious hindsight there, when you were really blowing the Grier horn all through training camp right up to preseason.

Not once did I ever say Grier looked like he should start a game. 

If you want to write fiction, at least make it entertaining. Do better. 

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Gano over Butker is the only one of the 3 you mentioned that I see as a huge misstep.

I’m fine with our QB room. We have a HC that wants to hang his hat on our defense, and we’ve spent a ton of resources on defense. Our defense should be good and Kyle Allen shouldn’t be asked to do too much. Yet, our defense sucks.

I think his biggest mistake has been keeping Ron Rivera.

I don’t have a lot of confidence in our strength and conditioning or medical teams either.

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1 minute ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Not once did I ever say Grier looked like he should start a game. 

If you want to write fiction, at least make it entertaining. Do better. 

The only fiction anyone is writing is this bullshit "Not once did I ever say Grier looked like he should start a game.". That's cute, that's a nice little qualifier for an argument. How about not once did I say that you said that he should start a game? Oh no, you can't argue now!

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/157823-will-grier-looking-better-than-expected/?tab=comments#comment-4887478

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/158321-people-are-angry-they-kept-grier-over-heinicke/?tab=comments#comment-4910220

 

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/157926-grier-and-allen-make-this-preseason-so-much-more-interesting/?tab=comments#comment-4892023

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5 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

I don't think Hurney chose Gano over Butker. I think that was a Rivera decision. Otherwise it makes no sense going into the season with two kickers on the roster.

This is correct

People are insane to think Hurney could overrule the head coach on who gets to start.  Once Rivera chose Gano as the starter, Hurney had no choice.

Keeping two kickers on the roster, a very very unusual move in the NFL, shows how much Hurney was favoring Butker over the veteran.  No idea why anyone doesn't understand this.

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15 minutes ago, SmartyHurney said:

The only fiction anyone is writing is this bullshit "Not once did I ever say Grier looked like he should start a game.". That's cute, that's a nice little qualifier for an argument. How about not once did I say that you said that he should start a game? Oh no, you can't argue now!

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/157823-will-grier-looking-better-than-expected/?tab=comments#comment-4887478

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/158321-people-are-angry-they-kept-grier-over-heinicke/?tab=comments#comment-4910220

 

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/157926-grier-and-allen-make-this-preseason-so-much-more-interesting/?tab=comments#comment-4892023

None of which support your claim. 

 

Do better. 

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Here's the main problem I see with Hurney.

For whatever you think of Gettleman, Rivera / Gettleman was at least a collaborative effort.

Rivera / Hurney is basically Rivera.

Gettleman had a strong enough personality to tell Ron when he was full of sh-t. I'd say that's quite possibly one of the big reasons why the two of them were a more successful combo.

Hurney?  While I'm sure he disagrees with Rivera sometimes, I seriously doubt his personality is strong enough to have the kind of shouting matches that Rivera described having with Gettleman. At heart, he's a collaborator.

Heck, why do you think you got along so well with Jerry Richardson?

Things often work better when there's a true back and forth. I don't believe there was anywhere near as much of that in our current braintrust.

And Ron Rivera having more power and say in player evaluation is just a bad idea.

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1 minute ago, bobowilson said:

This is correct

People are insane to think Hurney could overrule the head coach on who gets to start.  Once Rivera chose Gano as the starter, Hurney had no choice.

Keeping two kickers on the roster, a very very unusual move in the NFL, shows how much Hurney was favoring Butker over the veteran.  No idea why anyone doesn't understand this.

What do you mean he had no choice? He could release the starter. Then HC has to choose a different starter.

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