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Marty Hurney is Safe. Panthers to Hire Asst. GM/VP of Football Ops

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Tepper just said it in his interview with Voth explaining the moves today.

Tepper said, "Marty Hurney is one of the best recognizers of college talent in the nation.  Period.  I don't want to lose that."

I love this.  I stated something similar in all-pro.  Hurney is far from perfect, but his ability to hit big on the picks that matter is uncanny, so that is an asset.  But he needs balance.  His decisions in FA have been pretty bad, so bringing in someone to handle that side is perfect.  I know this is a bummer for many, but I love it.  

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Safe for now or for next year? 

I think Hurney has done a solid job his 2nd go around but keeping him long term would shock the hell out of me

I do think coaching has been a bigger issue than talent but I’d rather clean house everywhere 

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2 minutes ago, Mage said:

Safe for now or for next year? 

I think Hurney has done a solid job his 2nd go around but keeping him long term would shock the hell out of me

I do think coaching has been a bigger issue than talent but I’d rather clean house everywhere 

I completely agree and just said the same thing elsewhere about the coaching.  Hurney hasn't been the issue since his rehire.  The coaching has been.  Less talented teams are winning across the league.  Hell, you could argue the Saints are less talented than us, top to bottom... it's what they do with the talent they have.

So, giving Hurney a coach who actually knows what's they're doing, plays to strengths, works on weaknesses, and optimizes talent instead of favoring guys just because is going to make a huge difference.

Yes, Gettleman was able to win with Ron, but I can't explain how, because the teams under Hurney have been much more talented and Ron couldn't produce.  I'm excited to see Hurney with a new coach bc I believe in Hurney's eye for college talent, and I believe a new coach can excel with what Hurney gives him.

As to your other question, it sounds like long-term.  I included Tepper's exact quite from that snippet, and that sounds like he really likes Hurney.

 

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Not exactly what he said.

Here's the interview (discussion of the GM job starts around 4:30)

He's complimentary of Hurney, but around 5:15 also mentions that he could bring someone in as a potential GM.

Overall, sounds like he wants to keep Marty as part of the organization but it may not necessarily be in his current role. I'd speculate that he could make him head of the scouting department or something along those lines.

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3 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

For an analytics guy to say that...

Well, I wonder how many people are going to try and argue with me yet again that Hurney isn't above average at drafting.

 

Not just an analytics guys, one of the five best performing hedge fund managers of the past two decades.  Tepper is a legend on Wall Street, a guy seen as having the golden eye for recognizing undervalued assets.

I've been saying for a years that Hurney has one of the best draft records of any general manager over the past 30 years in the NFL.  He has literally drafted more Pro Bowlers than anyone in the league over his tenure.

I'm glad someone as brilliant as Tepper was able to recognize this, despite the irrational mob of Panthers fans who lack analytical abilities and obsess over a few mid round picks that Hurney missed (as if it's possible to draft in the middle rounds without missing on a lot of prospects).

Hurney is the 2nd best drafter in in the NFL over the past 20 years (Ozzie Newsome).  He might be the best 1st round drafter in NFL history (and despite what people think, hitting on big name talent is by far more important than anything else).

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not exactly what he said.

Here's the interview (discussion of the GM job starts around 4:30)

He's complimentary of Hurney, but around 5:15 also mentions that he could bring someone in as a potential GM.

Overall, sounds like he wants to keep Marty as part of the organization but it may not necessarily be in his current role. I'd speculate that he could make him head of the scouting department or something along those lines.

I included his direct quote, Scot. Lol, he said he didn't want to lose him.  I would say that means he's safe and wants him around long-term.

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1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

I included his direct quote, Scot. Lol, he said he didn't want to lose him.  I would say that means he's safe and wants him around long-term.

Bet he gets moved to head of scouting at the end of the season 

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Just now, bobowilson said:

 

Not just an analytics guys, one of the five best performing hedge fund managers of the past two decades.  Tepper is a legend on Wall Street, a guy seen as having the golden eye for recognizing undervalued assets.

I've been saying for a years that Hurney has one of the best draft records of any general manager over the past 30 years in the NFL.  He has literally drafted more Pro Bowlers than anyone in the league over his tenure.

I'm glad someone as brilliant as Tepper was able to recognize this, despite the irrational mob of Panthers fans who lack analytical abilities and obsess over a few mid round picks that Hurney missed (as if it's possible to draft in the middle rounds without missing on a lot of prospects).

Hurney is the 2nd best drafter in in the NFL over the past 20 years (Ozzie Newsome).  He might be the best 1st round drafter in NFL history (and despite what people think, hitting on big name talent is by far more important than anything else).

This, this, and this.

I've been saying the same thing, but it seems many have always been stuck on this idea that Hurney is a reporter who brown-nosed his way into a football job he wasn't qualified for.

I don't care if he was a milk man in his previous life, he knows how to draft.

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Bet he gets moved to head of scouting at the end of the season 

The further he explained, I don't think so.  He described Marty as like the head GM and if he were to use a business term for the impending hire, he said they would be like the COO.  So, I'm thinking it's gonna be a collaborative GM office.

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