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Tepper if you do snoop this board, your thoughts on hurney are wrong

RumHam

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While you may argue that ron couldn't accomplish hurneys vision from his personnel choices, he isn't a great evaluator like you think he is. Just remember those were gettleman players when we peaked this decade. Our secondary shows flashes, and thats about it. Both ol and dl are atrocious. The wr got better, but samuel was a gettleman guy. Just because he agrees with everything you say doesn't mean hes good. Theres a reason no other team signed him over the course of four years.

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bobowilson Newbie

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5 minutes ago, RumHam said:

. Just remember those were gettleman players when we peaked this decade. 

First of all it's hilarious you're trying to lecture a hedge fund billionaire.

But this claim just kills me.

2015 Pro Bowlers

There were 10 of them.  Gettleman acquired 20% of them (arguably the least impactful of the 10 besides Tolbert)

20% = majority?

Cam Newton (3) QB 2015
Jonathan Stewart RB
Greg Olsen (2) TE
Ryan Kalil (5) C
Trai Turner G
Mike Tolbert (2) FB
Luke Kuechly (3) LB
Thomas Davis LB
Josh Norman CB
Kawann Short DT
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1 minute ago, RumHam said:

While you may argue that ron couldn't accomplish hurneys vision from his personnel choices, he isn't a great evaluator like you think he is. Just remember those were gettleman players when we peaked this decade. Our secondary shows flashes, and thats about it. Both ol and dl are atrocious. The wr got better, but samuel was a gettleman guy. Just because he agrees with everything you say doesn't mean hes good. Theres a reason no other team signed him over the course of four years.

Dude, you missed the boat on this one. Let's see a few of Hurney's picks you've forgotten, but we haven't: 2011-- Cam Newton; 2012-- Luke Kuechly; 2018-- DJ Moore, Donte Jackson, Ian Thomas, Jermaine "Onside Kick" Carter; 2019 -- Brian Burns, Dennis Daley. Just ones that are currently on the team and performing well for us.

You can also add in from the past: 2002: Julius Peppers, DeShaun Foster, Will Witherspoon; 2003 Jordan Gross; 2004: Chris Gamble, Travelle Wharton; 2005 Thomas Davis, Geoff Hangartner; 2006: DeAngelo Williams; 2007: Jon Beason, Ryan Kalil, Charles Johnson, Dante Rosario; 2008; Jonathan Stewart, Gary Barnidge, Geoff Schwartz; 2009 Captain Munnerlyn (this draft was a clinker); and 2010 was, well, everyone craps out now and then.

You also have to figure in that he was able to grab us numerous high need free agents for the 3-4 realignment this past off season with big names like Gerald McCoy and Bruce Irvin. He also brought Julius Peppers back in for a couple of victory laps around the stadium and mended fences for us with Agent89.

So, what have you done for the team lately?

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8 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

These guys were all acquired with first round picks

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Steve Smith

Greg Olsen 

Kris Jenkins

Josh Norman

Ryan Kalil

Greg Hardy

Evan Mathis (multiple pro bowls)

Charles Johnson

 

obviously he acquired some great players outside the first round, but no one can argue his first round picks haven't been top notch.  after that, it's hit or miss, mostly miss.

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