Drafting 6-8: A Historic Look at Prospects & What 2020 Holds

[davos]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Short restructure was even worse IMO.

I personally think Short is excellent but the Star loss was huge.  Poe and Love have only helped out so much and our run defense fell off dramatically when he was lost this year.  He's very well-rounded against the run and pass..not to mention still plays 1 through 5 tech.  Huge asset IMO but a bad bad contact.  20 mil for both 2021 and 2022 is pretty crazy but we can work around it.  Hurney should be frozen from making any further moves.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, davos said:

I personally think Short is excellent but the Star loss was huge.  Poe and Love have only helped out so much and our run defense fell off dramatically when he was lost this year.  He's very well-rounded against the run and pass..not to mention still plays 1 through 5 tech.  Huge asset IMO but a bad bad contact.  20 mil for both 2021 and 2022 is pretty crazy but we can work around it.  Hurney should be frozen from making any further moves.

 

The contract is just brutal and has next to no cap flexibility. A classic Hurney move kicking the can down the road on an aging player.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The contract is just brutal and has next to no cap flexibility. A classic Hurney move kicking the can down the road on an aging player.

Basically what you'd expect from someone who only thinks of right now.

[Jim Harbaugh]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Basically what you'd expect from someone who only thinks of right now.

It's inconceivable Tepper is allowing Hurney to stay. Don't have to think about right now or the future. Just look at the ghost of seasons past and end of his last tenure. This lies completely at Teppers' doorstep and will retard the recovery of this Franchise years into the future unchecked.

[ncfan]

O how I wish we could.hire Joe Brady as well

[davos]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Basically what you'd expect from someone who only thinks of right now.

We'll be paying a 32 year old DT $20 million in 2021. 

Geno Atkins, Jurrell Casey and Linval Joseph's contracts are good comparisons, all right around the same age (30-31) and signed around similar times.  Both will be making about $7 mil less that Short towards the cap both in 2020 and 2021.  Yikes.  

Only two guys are set to make more than him in 2021: Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox.   

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, davos said:

We'll be paying a 32 year old DT $20 million in 2021. 

Geno Atkins, Jurrell Casey and Linval Joseph's contracts are good comparisons, all right around the same age (30-31) and signed around similar times.  Both will be making about $7 mil less that Short towards the cap both in 2020 and 2021.  Yikes.  

Only two guys are set to make more than him in 2021: Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox.   

Brutal.

[Pimpdaddy]

good stuff...we need a number 1 pick in like 8 positions...

[rayzor]

2 hours ago, WOW!! said:

I don't think rookies fix the Oline..

Not right away. More a liability the first year. Get them a year under the belt then get a QB.

[Varking]

I don’t think Jalen Hurts is catapulting up and draft boards after today. He’s a solid 4th rounder. 

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

And what if we end up having nothing in them? Then you've essentially flushed another season down the toilet.

I'm glad it's not my call to make. The new staff is going to have to do a lot of evaluating  to do with not much to go off of.

That's the breaks.. But you have 2 young guys we don't know what they are yet.. They need development and game time like any other position.. Since we already spent the draft capital we might as well seen what we have 1st before we draft more..

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

That's the breaks.. But you have 2 young guys we don't know what they are yet.. They need development and game time like any other position.. Since we already spent the draft capital we might as well seen what we have 1st before we draft more..

All I'm saying is that if I'm the new regime I'm not passing opportunities to get better hoping that a 2nd and 6th rounders of a failed regime ultimately work out. If they do, great. Icing on the cake.

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

When a once in the last 3-5 years OT falls you take them

We do have some young guys, 2 of them.

Little and Daley, thats it 

 

These statements are thrown around way to often now.. 

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

All I'm saying is that if I'm the new regime I'm not passing opportunities to get better hoping that a 2nd and 6th rounders of a failed regime ultimately work out. If they do, great. Icing on the cake.

Hopefully as a new regime you 1st take stock in assets you already have before replacing them.. Atleast need to access what you already have investment in..