Rappaport: Marty Hurney heavily involved in HC search!!!

[Mage]

Why are we acting like Rivera and Fox were bad hires?  They weren’t perfect but have y’all seen the HC fail rate league wide?  They were good until they overstayed their welcome.  Expecting every HC to be some 10 year guy isn’t reasonable, but as usual we have the same negativity warriors overreacting 

It’s funny because in a debate I got into one of them with in regard to Ron Rivera, I was told winning a Super Bowl automatically made one a good head coach. But now suddenly McCarthy isn’t a good head coach?  It’s freakin hilarious. 

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

7 people isn’t enough to even take the field. 46 more people are needed. How are you not understanding that? Depth matters. 

I would add few things make me laugh as much as people thinking those Coach of the Year awards mean anything.

The other two time Coach of the Year over the same period got fired from the Cardinals but came back to coach the Buccaneers to a record that wasn't a whole lot better than ours.

[Mage]

21 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

Tepper/Hurney:  "So, you think you can lose a Super Bowl once every decade?"

Coaching candidate: "Uh, um, yeah I guess?"

Tepper/Hurney: "You're hired"

That’s not the point.  

2 HCs he hired took us to Super Bowls and the playoffs multiple times.  Were they perfect?  No, but they were better than 90% of hires made every year and that’s a fact.  There’s a reason they were sought after post getting let go.  

Im not even saying a Hurney is good but acting like it’s the end of the world because he’s involved in the search?  Y’all are negativity warriors 

[jfra78]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Pretty much.

Apparently some members of our fanbase have some extremely low standards.

Lol, you really think going to the superbowl is an extremely low standard?  If you get your way with our coaching/GM search, we will look more like the Browns than the Patriots.  

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Mage said:

That’s not the point.  

2 HCs he hired took us to Super Bowls and the playoffs multiple times.  Were they perfect?  No, but they were better than 90% of hires made every year and that’s a fact.

So the point is to focus on the very small list of achievements and ignore the big picture.

Well, when you put it like that...

[top dawg]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

By golly you're right. These last two seasons have just been so much fun to watch.

Can't wait for more of this 

Glad to know that many of you are essentially on record saying that nothing's changing. We'll see if you're right in about three to five years.

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

Why are we acting like Rivera and Fox were bad hires?  They weren’t perfect but have y’all seen the HC fail rate league wide?  They were good until they overstayed their welcome.  Expecting every HC to be some 10 year guy isn’t reasonable, but as usual we have the same negativity warriors overreacting 

It’s funny because in a debate I got into one of them with in regard to Ron Rivera, I was told winning a Super Bowl automatically made one a good head coach. But now suddenly McCarthy isn’t a good head coach?  It’s freakin hilarious. 

There's no logic with these guys

They say Ron Rivera road the coat tails of a stacked roster (and they always cite Cam Newton, Luke Kuechly, Greg Olsen, Thomas Davis, Josh Norman, etc).

But then they forget who acquired these 'stacked' guys.

 

[Mage]

I mean Rivera won coach of the year twice. 

Only on the Huddle would they try to convince you he was a terrible hire LMAO

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, jfra78 said:

Lol, you really think going to the superbowl is an extremely low standard?  If you get your way with our coaching/GM search, we will look more like the Browns than the Patriots.  

We already do look more like the Browns than the Patriots.

Keeping Marty will help ensure we keep going in that direction.

[Harbingers]

Rivera/Hurney 25-39* 

Rivera/Gettleman: 51-28-1

If you can’t figure out the common denominator, then I can’t help you. Hurney is that you?

5 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

So Ron Rivera was 2 time coach of the year because of depth pieces G-Man acquired?

Man, Rivera must have been twice the coach any of us ever realized

I never realized how integral Fozzy Whitaker, Cameron Artis Payne, Corey Brown, Cortland Finnegan, and Brentson Bersin were, until now.  I've had had a revelation about it all now.

 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

Lol, you really think going to the superbowl is an extremely low standard?  If you get your way with our coaching/GM search, we will look more like the Browns than the Patriots.  

Yeah 2003 and 2015 were fun seasons.  They don't mean much when the Panthers have been wafflestomped two years in a row and the guy we're supposed to trust for the rebuild was already fired once for sucking 8 years ago.

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

Lol, you really think going to the superbowl is an extremely low standard?  If you get your way with our coaching/GM search, we will look more like the Browns than the Patriots.  

And it wasn't just that we went to 2 Superbowls with these guys

We were the better team in both Superbowls and got jobbed (one due to cheating, another due to bad refs)

[NanuqoftheNorth]

31 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

Leaving out 2017 because that roster was basically put together when Hurney was re-hired, I think Hurney has had 13ish seasons where he's unambiguously assembled the roster.  Meaning he ran the draft, FA, etc.

1 NFC title, 0 back to back winning seasons, 0 back to back division titles, 0 playoff wins since 2005.

And... Fox and Rivera produced their best seasons as head coaches once Hurney was no longer their GM.

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

Rivera/Hurney 25-39* 

Rivera/Gettleman: 51-28-1

If you can’t figure out the common denominator, then I can’t help you. Hurney is that you?

 

Hedge fund guys and anyone with a background in analytics understands process, not just result.

I don't dare ask you for your occupation.

In case you needed help, the common denominator was the health/maturation of Cam Newton.