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19 hours ago, 45catfan said:

I prefer Brown over Simmons, but would be fine with Simmons.  However, the people going hard for Simmons have absolutely been trashing Brown.

I simply don’t understand spending a top 10 pick on a defensive lineman that isn’t good at rushing the passer in today’s NFL.

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1 minute ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

I simply don’t understand spending a top 10 pick on a defensive lineman that isn’t good at rushing the passer in today’s NFL.

  Yet, a few short months ago, the team with the 2nd most sacks in the NFL had the 2nd worst defense. Who was that? 
 

  And why isn’t  Brown able rush the passer, in the NFL? He can’t possibly face more double-teams. 

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so far we've met with the following players:    *notice that all of these players are 7th/UDFA prospects

- TCU RB Sewo Olinuwa 

- Northern Colorado QB Jacob Knipp

- Minnesota CB Chris Williamson 

- Florida State CB Levonta Taylor 

- West Virginia CB Keith Washington 

- Fresno State TE Cameron Sutton

 

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14 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

We are very interested in Amik Robertson, have met w him twice and at the combine.

3rd round prospect meaning unless Okudah somehow falls to us, we will probably be looking elsewhere in rounds one and two besides corner.

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17 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

so far we've met with the following players:    *notice that all of these players are 7th/UDFA prospects

- TCU RB Sewo Olinuwa 

- Northern Colorado QB Jacob Knipp

- Minnesota CB Chris Williamson 

- Florida State CB Levonta Taylor 

- West Virginia CB Keith Washington 

- Fresno State TE Cameron Sutton

 

Check Jordan Reid twitter. We met w Amik again via FaceTime

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2 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

According to Pat Leonard and Tony Pauline the 4 players buzzing for the Giants are:

Derrick Brown, Andrew Thomas, Tristian Wirfs and Isaiah Simmons

I hope he doesn't do it, but I've said it over and over again, no prospect in a long time has screamed "David Gettleman guy" louder than Derrick Brown.

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13 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

According to Pat Leonard and Tony Pauline the 4 players buzzing for the Giants are:

Derrick Brown, Andrew Thomas, Tristian Wirfs and Isaiah Simmons

Probably based on their board assuming Burrow, Young and Okudah are drafted as many suspect.  Odd that he likes Thomas over Becton.   Becton is a big dude.  Wirfs is a hog-molly, so I understand why Dave likes him over Wills.

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