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Carolina sticking with Cam


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1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Look y'all, I've been as big of a Cam Newton fan as anyone....but Ian Rappaport has been so inconsistent and downright wrong with his hot takes in the past, and with no official word coming directly from the team, I'd recommend taking this with a grain of salt.

And even if Rappaport's statement has some truth to it, the Panthers are probably saying all things sunny side up with Cam right now to drive up his value. "We want to keep him, he's getting as healthier and healthier, we're not considering a QB in the first round." Of course the team is going to say all these things in the offseason. There is zero benefit not to say anything other than positive statements about Cam at this stage in the offseason.

The problem is....nobody knows what the Panthers brass are going to do, or for even that matter are likely to do.

Typically you have an owner with a track record, or a GM, or a head coach.  Right now, everyone is in the dark.

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If the team is actually leaking this info to Rap, in an attempt to drive trade value up, and they do end up trading him for less than fair mkt value, you’re going to start to lose some people. 

Not me. I’m just here to do some analysis and have a little fun. It’s a real circuitous route to travel try to trade a player. I’m not saying it’s unprecedented. I’m just not certain it’s a very good PR strategy. I’m also not certain it’s a very good football strategy.

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1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

The problem is....nobody knows what the Panthers brass are going to do, or for even that matter are likely to do.

Typically you have an owner with a track record, or a GM, or a head coach.  Right now, everyone is in the dark.

Do the Panthers brass even know at this point?

It sounds snarky to say but with so many things up in the air, it's a valid question.

There are certainly things they want to do, things they hope to do and things they wish they could do, but circumstances may not allow them to do any of those things.

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this burrow not playing for the bengals narrative is even more forced and bullshit than the newton one, there isn't a shred of truth to it lol. he's gonna play for whoever, yes the bengals have a shitty owner but i mean hey, they got more playoff appearances than we do in the past decade. not like we had a particularly great owner either.. (he's not mike brown?)

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1 minute ago, ellis said:

If the team is actually leaking this info to Rap, in an attempt to drive trade value up, and they do end up trading him for less than fair mkt value, you’re going to start to lose some people. 

Not me. I’m just here to do some analysis and have a little fun. It’s a real circuitous route to travel try to trade a player. I’m not saying it’s unprecedented. I’m just not certain it’s a very good PR strategy. I’m also not certain it’s a very good football strategy.

It's pretty common practice, and a genuine possibility. The problem of course is that other teams know that.

The Panthers certainly aren't above it. There were some strong hints that the whole "Newton is healthy enough to play" leak to Adam Schefter last year might have come from the team.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Do the Panthers brass even know at this point?

It sounds snarky to say but with so many things up in the air, it's a valid question.

There are certainly things they want to do, things they hope to do and things they wish they could do, but circumstances may not allow them to do any of those things.

If the injury thing is true then no they probably have no idea at this point.  But I would bet anything they would prefer to have this wrapped up by the time the draft comes around.  Must be incredibly hard preparing for the draft and 2020 if you dont know if your qb can even play.

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12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Do the Panthers brass even know at this point?

It sounds snarky to say but with so many things up in the air, it's a valid question.

There are certainly things they want to do, things they hope to do and things they wish they could do, but circumstances may not allow them to do any of those things.

I don't think that they do know for certain right now, and that's not really a knock on them, just the position in which they find themselves.

The Panthers are not in a good position right now.

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