Corona Virus

[LinvilleGorge]

Not sure which part of this isn't a catch all "Tinderbox on the main forum" thread y'all didn't understand.

[LinvilleGorge]

Alright, let's try again...

[stirs]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Alright, let's try again...

What part got it shut down?

[Shufdog]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Alright, let's try again...

If you would go after the individuals and deleting comments of those who derail threads, instead of shutting threads down, it would help a lot!

Edited May 22, 2020 by Shufdog

[Ja Rhule]

Daycares reopening on June 1st.  Public pools reopening tomorrow.  Most stay at home works are going back to work in July.

Edited May 22, 2020 by Ja Rhule

[cookinbrak]

2 hours ago, stirs said:

What part got it shut down?

Probably the one directly above his. But God forbid you say anything to the trespassers. 

[Wes21]

Thread is back open!  Back to the doctor jokes...

"I'm a Gastroenterologist, I specialize in the digestive system.  I think this whole thing is a bunch of poo."

[LinvilleGorge]

I think a lot of people are blind to the fact that we haven't seen the worst of this yet. This spring was an appetizer for the main course that's coming. Just think about it. Coronaviruses are historically largely seasonal diseases. They're a lot less contagious in warmer temps. A natural tailing off of the pandemic over the summer is largely to be expected. The problem is that we've hit over 1.6M cases starting in late January at zero. Sure, it's possibly that small numbers of largely secluded cases existed before then, but for all practical purposes we started in late January. That's halftime of cold/flu season. This coming fall, we'll be starting at opening kickoff and we won't be starting with a score of zero. We'll be starting with COVID having a solid foothold across the country. Even in the best case scenarios, there won't be a vaccine available in meaningful quantities when cold and flu season starts to ramp up next year. Our only defense is going to again be social distancing and likely local sheltering in place as outbreaks pop up. We'll need a lot better testing and contract tracing programs for those efforts to be successful. Hopefully toward halftime of next cold/flu season we'll start seeing a vaccine supply sufficient for widespread vaccination of vulnerable populations but for all intents and purposes we're likely looking at dealing with a full cold/flu season of COVID before we have widespread vaccine access.

That's why I just shake my head when I see all those economic predictions prefaced with "assuming there isn't a second wave..." That's like basing economic predictions on winning the lottery. It's completely unrealistic and just sets you up for total failure.

[stirs]

I watched a video yesterday from some doctor in the UK and he said the thought the thing would "peter" out.  He said that is the history of these types of virus' when there is no vaccine.  Nice thought anyway in the clickbait for doom society we live in.

 

Found it.

 

 

Edited May 22, 2020 by stirs

[LinvilleGorge]

Find me a highly infectious novel respiratory disease that just petered out without a second wave. I honestly don't think it exists. It's wishful thinking.

The Spanish flu in the late nineteen teens, the Hong Kong flu of the late 60s, and H1N1 in the late '00s all had second waves that were worse than the first.

[Soul Rebel]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Find me a highly infectious novel respiratory disease that just petered out without a second wave. I honestly don't think it exists. It's wishful thinking.

The Spanish flu in the late nineteen teens, the Hong Kong flu of the late 60s, and H1N1 in the late '00s all had second waves that were worse than the first.

I did see an article about this and it looks like opening too soon was an issue in SF during the 1918 flu...

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-san-francisco-can-learn-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus-1918

I do believe that we have to find a balance in order to start getting back to life, but striking that balance is no easy task. Open too soon, virus spreads again. Stay at home, economy crashes deeper. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

36 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

I did see an article about this and it looks like opening too soon was an issue in SF during the 1918 flu...

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-san-francisco-can-learn-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus-1918

I do believe that we have to find a balance in order to start getting back to life, but striking that balance is no easy task. Open too soon, virus spreads again. Stay at home, economy crashes deeper. 

Of course there will be a second wave. There's no way to stop it. Quarantine can't last forever and if it's anything there like it is here, social distancing is an absolute joke. 

Without a vaccine, nearly everyone in the world is going to be exposed and to think otherwise is foolish IMO. Just try and even the spread so hospitals aren't overwhelmed.

[Tbe]

32 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Of course there will be a second wave. There's no way to stop it. Quarantine can't last forever and if it's anything there like it is here, social distancing is an absolute joke. 

Without a vaccine, nearly everyone in the world is going to be exposed and to think otherwise is foolish IMO. Just try and even the spread so hospitals aren't overwhelmed.

According to recent studies (and what happened in Hong Kong), if everyone wears a mask we can greatly reduce the infection rate.

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/18/21262273/coronavirus-hong-kong-masks-deaths-new-york

 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Tbe said:

According to recent studies (and what happened in Hong Kong), if everyone wears a mask we can greatly reduce the infection rate.

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/18/21262273/coronavirus-hong-kong-masks-deaths-new-york

 

Too bad we have a bunch of people trying to politicize wearing masks equating them to "muzzles". WTF...