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3 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

Yes, our economy is fuged.  Do you have a job or a family? 

Own a business, have two kids and a wife and I would like to do this lock down thing one time.  So let’s do it right... even if it takes a little longer than we might prefer.  

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No. The stay at home orders were due to the transmission of the disease getting out of control because we waited too long to act. As the curve flattens over the coming days and significantly declines over coming weeks, you'll see stay at home orders start to lift. There will be a return to somewhat normalcy. The "somewhat" is in there because we will still need to follow social distancing protocols to prevent a second exponential rise in cases. If people follow those protocols, we can likely prevent any further stay at home mandates. But, the average person is really incredibly dumb and half of the people out there are even dumber than that... so, we'll see.

There's not really been high transmission outside of NYC, Detroit and New Orleans. Either we didn't act too late or there's something else going on.  I haven't really read about the hospitals being overwhelmed, most are operating under capacity right now and laying off workers. There are predictions out there (including the infamous IHME model) that assumed social distancing and they still went way overboard.  They have since significantly revised their projections. 

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So big thing in US... all professional athletes are under contract and required to get paid during this outbreak.  For example... NFL team pays players on average of 170M per season (excluding staff).  There are 32 teams...  NFL might make no money but will require to pay salaries in billions.  That’s not sustainable. I know multiple soccer teams in Europe that have been around of almost century are going bankrupt due to player and staff salaries.

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4 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

Own a business, have two kids and a wife and I would like to do this lock down thing one time.  So let’s do it right... even if it takes a little longer than we might prefer.  

How long are you willing to do it?

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Just now, BIGH2001 said:

How long are you willing to do it?

that’s a really good question.  I guess as long as it takes?  But there’s definitely a breaking point.

its a tough spot for all of us and I wanna get things back to where they were as much as anyone.  But not if it means stop and go stop and go... I fear that will be worse for the economy in the long run.
 

 

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13 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

that’s a really good question.  I guess as long as it takes?  But there’s definitely a breaking point.

its a tough spot for all of us and I wanna get things back to where they were as much as anyone.  But not if it means stop and go stop and go... I fear that will be worse for the economy in the long run.
 

 

I don’t know if I trust anyone in charge to make the right decision on striking that balance.  I don’t know what kind of business you own but if it is public facing at all you are still going to have a large subset of the population who will be scared of their own shadow even after we are officially told we can go back to “normal.” I think that the media coverage of it has been over the top and fear mongering. Again, I get that we had to be warned so some of it was necessary but people have been given no hope. Its a dangerous thing. 

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Things cant go back to the way it was anytime soo, but I feel some of the restrictions could be lessened.  Non essential bussiness that do not deal directly with public should be allowed to operate carefully.  Retail should operate with the same restrictions that grocery stores have.  People should be forced to wear masks in public. Entertainment businesses should remain closed. Resturants continue the way it is now. Large gathering places like Malls and theatres remain closed.  Mass transit remains closed. 

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8 hours ago, CBDellinger said:

Lol... It’s just the flu!!  AMIRITE?!!  
 

 

You actually might be very close.

What would the seasonal flu look like each year with "no flu shot"?  Probably like the coronavirus.

Seasonal flu takes 20-60k each year in the US, and that is with the flu shot.

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5 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Things cant go back to the way it was anytime soo, but I feel some of the restrictions could be lessened.  Non essential bussiness that do not deal directly with public should be allowed to operate carefully.  Retail should operate with the same restrictions that grocery stores have.  People should be forced to wear masks in public. Entertainment businesses should remain closed. Resturants continue the way it is now. Large gathering places like Malls and theatres remain closed.  Mass transit remains closed. 

Why would you open retail and not allow restaurants to reopen at half capacity? I didn’t realize mass transit was closed,

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I’m concerned that we are losing sight of the original purpose of social distancing to begin with.  We were told that the hospitals needed to ensure they had adequate surge capacity to deal with corona cases.  We are seeing empty hospitals nationwide.  Now it seems like the policy has shifted to “no one can die from this.” People are being gaslighted for wanting to actually earn a living.  We knew all along this would still be with us after the first wave.  It’s time to move on. 

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You hate to think selfishness plays a part sometimes in the perceived benevolent headlines for some companies.  But I did hear a few are publicizing their PPE efforts mainly so they can stay open and continue running their regular line products.  I actually know a couple of them.

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