Draft direction breakdown...

[WOW!!]

Jmo (which definitely could be wrong)  The draft is basically looking like a 3 horse race for us at 7.. If we don't trade down.. Imo again with the little football logic i have.. This offseason so far has pointed to a defensive minded picking draft strategy.. The player on our Radar should be Okudah,  Simmons or Brown..  1a. Okudah  shutdown CB is a top value position and it's a top 2 need for us now.... 1b. Brown lesser value then a CB but top need for us with only 1 on the roster and our run defense being atrocious.. 2. Simmons  LB isn't a great value position in today football but the out of world talent and we do need a LB is hard to pass up...

1 of these guys will definitely be there at 7.. But I want to look at where we should go after we draft 1 of these guys.. What is our direction after or when we pick 1 of these players..

Imo..

1. After Okudah .. DT is a must.. Then you can look at Lb, WR, another DT maybe a guard/center ,TE or safety in the 3rd, 4th and 5th... Only way I don't get a DT in the 2nd round is if  a WR like Denzel Mims is there.. IF that happens I double tap DT in the 3rd and 4th or 3rd and 5th rounds..

2. After Brown.. You have to go CB in the 2nd.. Then in the 3rd, 4th and 5th . WR, LB, S, OG-TE- or double tap DT.. But I would definitely look WR in the 3rd first if we go Brown, Cb in rounds 1 and 2...

3. After Simmons... You have to get a starting CB or atleast somebody competing to be a starter day 1.. Then 3rd 4th and 5th rounds would be a mix of WR and DT double tap.. then look at OG/C, TE or secondary depth in the last 2 rounds..

Jmo..

 

 

[pantherj]

1. Bengals — Joe Burrow, QB, LSU

2. Redskins — Chase Young, DE, Ohio State

3. Lions — Jeff Okudah, CB, Ohio State

4. Giants — Isaiah Simmons, LB/S, Clemson

5. Dolphins — Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama

6. Chargers — Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon

7. _____________________

 

Who do you take? Brown?

[mrcompletely11]

9 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Jmo (which definitely could be wrong)  The draft is basically looking like a 3 horse race for us at 7.. If we don't trade down.. Imo again with the little football logic i have.. This offseason so far has pointed to a defensive minded picking draft strategy.. The player on our Radar should be Okudah,  Simmons or Brown..  1a. Okudah  shutdown CB is a top value position and it's a top 2 need for us now.... 1b. Brown lesser value then a CB but top need for us with only 1 on the roster and our run defense being atrocious.. 2. Simmons  LB isn't a great value position in today football but the out of world talent and we do need a LB is hard to pass up...

1 of these guys will definitely be there at 7.. But I want to look at where we should go after we draft 1 of these guys.. What is our direction after or when we pick 1 of these players..

Imo..

1. After Okudah .. DT is a must.. Then you can look at Lb, WR, another DT maybe a guard/center ,TE or safety in the 3rd, 4th and 5th... Only way I don't get a DT in the 2nd round is if  a WR like Denzel Mims is there.. IF that happens I double tap DT in the 3rd and 4th or 3rd and 5th rounds..

2. After Brown.. You have to go CB in the 2nd.. Then in the 3rd, 4th and 5th . WR, LB, S, OG-TE- or double tap DT.. But I would definitely look WR in the 3rd first if we go Brown, Cb in rounds 1 and 2...

3. After Simmons... You have to get a starting CB or atleast somebody competing to be a starter day 1.. Then 3rd 4th and 5th rounds would be a mix of WR and DT double tap.. then look at OG/C, TE or secondary depth in the last 2 rounds..

Jmo..

 

 

I know we go back and forth on this but a DT is much much much easier to find then a stud LT.  And there are a ton of stud LT's at the top of this draft.  Its time to quit dicking around and build a solid oline

 

I would go Thomas at 7 (or whoever they have rated the highest) and then maybe Biadasz if he is there in the 2nd.

 

After 2020 and perhaps sooner we are again going to be looking at replacing our center and LT.  We need to build something sustainable. 

[bababoey]

When you go into a draft having to get position X or position Y, whatever those positions are,  you have already failed.  Having 1 position that you really have a need at is ok if you have a 1st and 2nd round pick.  A player should be available in the first 2 rounds of the draft at that need position that could at least compete for a starting spot.  Having 3 or 4 and having to pick for need instead of best player is how you end up with 4 and 5 picks in the draft and trading up to get a player you need when a better player is available but the team can't draft him because he does not fit the need.

[CmC2k]

We take Herbert and the huddle crashes for 45 minutes 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, CmC2k said:

We take Herbert and the huddle crashes for 45 minutes 

just 45?

[pantherj]

Just now, CmC2k said:

We take Herbert and the huddle crashes for 45 minutes 

LAC won't let him fall.

[pantherj]

I want Herbert so I'd be cheering and thrilled. I'm no the typical Huddler who wants DTs.

[Black&BlueBubba]

The Lions have now Trufant and the 2 nd round kid from Penn State last year.  I think they go Brown or trade down.  I think that drops Okudah to 7.  The more I think about I would take Okudah.  Love his talent and how his mental make up fits into Rhules rebuild.  

[Black&BlueBubba]

3 minutes ago, CmC2k said:

We take Herbert and the huddle crashes for 45 minutes 

That is very much in the cards.  We are talking about Hurney. 

[Black&BlueBubba]

2 minutes ago, pantherj said:

LAC won't let him fall.

LAC has no LT.  They have to go there at 6. 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

LAC has no LT.  They have to go there at 6. 

Neither do we if we are being honest about it.

[pantherj]

4 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

LAC has no LT.  They have to go there at 6. 

Want to make a bet? Avatar bet or something?

[unicar15]

19 minutes ago, pantherj said:

1. Bengals — Joe Burrow, QB, LSU

2. Redskins — Chase Young, DE, Ohio State

3. Lions — Jeff Okudah, CB, Ohio State

4. Giants — Isaiah Simmons, LB/S, Clemson

5. Dolphins — Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama

6. Chargers — Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon

7. _____________________

 

Who do you take? Brown?

I think there are probably two players (Realistically) that the Panthers wouldn’t pass on. Okudah and Simmons. 
 

Simmons seems like the prototype for what Rhule wants. He’s extremely productive. He’s got insane numbers. 
 

Okudah is a top 5 pick at a spot of need.

With Bridgewater in the fold and a relationship with Brady...I don’t see a QB happening. So...I think the move would be to trade down. Maybe try to acquire assets for next year to get players they want and get in position to move up for a QB. Next years QB class is exponentially better barring any unforeseen returns. 
 

I do think they could pass on Brown as they could see gaining picks and getting a DT later could be a more valuable scenario. 
 

I know that people love Kinlaw and think he’s going top 10. I think he’s more of a top 15 player. He’s not an edge. He’s a 1 or 3 technique and I’d argue that he’s not even a true NT. Those type of players just tend to not juice the draft room no matter how valuable they end up being. I think you could trade down and get Kinlaw plus picks.