Another report of Samuel being someone who could possibly be traded

[WarPanthers89]

Where there is smoke...fire? This has been brought up multiple times this offseason, and the latest is CBS sports in an article just posted yesterday. Any way you see this happening? I know a team source stated before that we are not shopping Samuel, but we all know how that goes...

 

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

Where there is smoke...fire? This has been brought up multiple times this offseason, and the latest is CBS sports in an article just posted yesterday. Any way you see this happening? I know a team source stated before that we are not shopping Samuel, but we all know how that goes...

Nice find-War--way to work the wires.  There sure is a lot of smoke--a potential draft day deal?

All three teams you have mentioned have expressed some interest in trading on draft day----

[LinvilleGorge]

Just pure speculation. I don't expect to see Samuel moved unless we add another WR in the first three rounds. If that happens, then we probably do need to move Samuel.

[45catfan]

Why trade a 23-year old #2 that who is better on the roster than what can be had in a realistic trade?

A wildly, crazy good deal would be to get his draft value back of a 2nd round pick.  Highly unlikely.  A 3rd, possible, but still a little much. So we would trade Samuel who is still on an upward trend for a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick?

Makes zero sense.

[JawnyBlaze]

I feel like it’s just speculation based on the way we added like 10 WRs in FA, but I think it would be foolish. The only WR we added that might be better than Samuel is Anderson. The others aren’t even close.  Seems we’d be giving up way too early on him, but Rhule has already shown he’d rather have guys he brings in rather than better players so anything is possible. 

[Navy_football]

Well... 

Depends on how contract negotiations have gone - if at all. 

Maybe he wants get out of Carolina. Or if he's looking for above market value, then pull the trigger now. 

[Waldo]

Why would anyone trade for a WR when they could draft one in the first 3 rounds and have them on a rookie deal for 4 years? Unless there are other issues, seems like trading him to spend that pick on replacing him. Again, why if we don't get 2 picks and he isn't worth all that much anyways. Just weird and makes no sense.

[weyco2000]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Why trade a 23-year old #2 that who is better on the roster than what can be had in a realistic trade?

A wildly, crazy good deal would be to get his draft value back of a 2nd round pick.  Highly unlikely.  A 3rd, possible, but still a little much. So we would trade Samuel who is still on an upward trend for a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick?

Makes zero sense.

It made zero sense when we drafted him in the second round. 

[MMA]

Samuel has been a good red zone target. Other than that, he’s the next biggest piece of trash after Short. Kid has speed and that’s all. Terrible hands, cannot run routes and will not fight for the ball. 

[MMA]

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Why would anyone trade for a WR when they could draft one in the first 3 rounds and have them on a rookie deal for 4 years? Unless there are other issues, seems like trading him to spend that pick on replacing him. Again, why if we don't get 2 picks and he isn't worth all that much anyways. Just weird and makes no sense.

Because it’s a passing league and receivers will start coming off the board like toilet papers. You’re not getting a Denzel Mims in the 3rd. Maybe a Chase Claypool but not a Aiyuk. 

[MMA]

19 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Why trade a 23-year old #2 that who is better on the roster than what can be had in a realistic trade?

A wildly, crazy good deal would be to get his draft value back of a 2nd round pick.  Highly unlikely.  A 3rd, possible, but still a little much. So we would trade Samuel who is still on an upward trend for a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick?

Makes zero sense.

Samuel isn’t a #2. He’s now hoping to be the #3. Just because the kid was the #2 last season doesn’t mean he’s a legit #2. That proves how bad we were at WR last season. CMC has been our best receiver the last two straight seasons. 

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, MMA said:

Because it’s a passing league and receivers will start coming off the board like toilet papers. You’re not getting a Denzel Mims in the 3rd. Maybe a Chase Claypool but not a Aiyuk. 

Still trading a young player for a pick to replace him with. From a distance that is treading water for us, unless an issue is involved, and compared to other options why wouldn't  the other team spend that draft pick on a rookie WR and not Samuels? It makes no sense at a distance. Now that could change with details but not at face value.

[MMA]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Still trading a young player for a pick to replace him with. From a distance that is treading water for us, unless an issue is involved, and compared to other options why wouldn't  the other team spend that draft pick on a rookie WR and not Samuels? It makes no sense at a distance. Now that could change with details but not at face value.

Because there are some teams that are dumb enough to believe that they have the right coaches to teach Samuel to run routes and catch the football. Not everyone in the professional league is smart. 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Still trading a young player for a pick to replace him with. From a distance that is treading water for us, unless an issue is involved, and compared to other options why wouldn't  the other team spend that draft pick on a rookie WR and not Samuels? It makes no sense at a distance. Now that could change with details but not at face value.

Well, we cut Cam and his $20M contract to sign Teddy to his $60M+ contract, so it seems like we have a fetish for treading water with a boat anchor tethered to our ankle.