Good thing we have Hurney right?

[NAS]

[bababoey]

To be fair, you can do that for a lot of teams. 

Jaguars 2011-2016

2011 Blaine Gabbert - 3 years - released has not played since 2018

2012 Justin Blackman - 3 years - released has not played since 2014

2013 Luke Joeckel  - 4 years - free agent has not played since 2018

2014 Blake Bortles - 5 years - free agent

2015 Dante Fowler - 4 years - traded to Rams

2016 Jalen Ramsey - 3 years - traded to Rams

 

Do the Browns if you really want to see something ugly.

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[Snake]

Only difference is they know when to cut their losses. 

[onmyown]

What? Let’s put this in context:

Coples/Miliner = worthless bad picks

Jermaine Kearse and a second rounder > Richardson

Davis> Pryor

Williams probably bad move, depends on new contact but doesn’t look good

Lee somewhat solid depth player but was behind much better players and wasn’t worth the pick - wash

Adams good player but I’d rather have the two fist rounders, Seahawks got fleeced but you have to consider the jets desperately need the picks and the Seahawks can make these kinds of sacrifices because they’re in win now mode and just need a couple pieces 

 

Whens last time Hurney fleeced another team? Maybe the bears with Olsen for third rounder? 
 

We all know Hurney is decent in the first round. What percentage is one draft pick, though an important one, is a GMs job? Like 1-5%?

Also Hurney, I’m pretty sure Hurney gets a lot of credit for top 10 round picks...the Jet’s players listed? 16, 9, 13, 18, 6, 20, 6...average 12-13.

Hurney 1.0 back dated 2005-2012:  14, 27, 25, 13/19,  (no first, dumbass everette brown year), (another moot year due to more Hurney dumbassery year, though tried real hard to get back into the first to trade for none other than the Jimmy Clausen), 1, 9...average 15.

Honestly, considering the fact the average is pretty close, and the Jets replaced one of their picks with two first rounds, and two other firsts solid trades...whereas Hurney’s firsts consisted of short lived players like Otah and Beason...good players like Williams/Stewart and great players like Cam and Luke (sure we’ll throw CMC in there even though that’s outside the years analyzed). Looks as if Hurney shines best as long as it was a top 10-15 draft pick. Hopefully any GM can handle that.

But then you include the fact we have no firsts for two years, tried to get Clausen in the first and traded valuable top picks after the first for players like Armanti Edwards, Everette Brown...hard to say if it’s that much better than the Jets.

Just food for thought and lastly, I’ll say looking at the draft is a very small part of a GMs job. But yea, let’s narrow it down to that, and make sure we compare it to a team like the jets so we can feel grateful (when in reality it’s more comparable than people think).

I’m not trying to blast Hurney, but being arguably comparable to the Jets isn’t going to cut it. These are the facts. He has to do better is this team goes anywhere.

[onmyown]

34 minutes ago, bababoey said:

To be fair, you can do that for a lot of teams. 

Jaguars 2011-2016

2011 Blaine Gabbert - 3 years - released has not played since 2018

2012 Justin Blackman - 3 years - released has not played since 2014

2013 Luke Joeckel  - 4 years - free agent has not played since 2018

2014 Blake Bortles - 5 years - free agent

2015 Dante Fowler - 4 years - traded to Rams

2016 Jalen Ramsey - 3 years - traded to Rams

 

Do the Browns if you really want to see something ugly.

 

As much as people make fun of the jags on this forum I always chuckle. Since inception, the Jags are almost identical to the Panthers and resemble them in almost every aspect, namely franchise wins/losses closer than any other team in the NFL.

lol

[NAS]

This post was a bit tongue in cheek. Drafting first rounders is Hurney’s only strength. I still hope he gets replaced. 

[NAS]

8 minutes ago, onmyown said:

As much as people make fun of the jags on this forum I always chuckle. Since inception, the Jags are almost identical to the Panthers and resemble them in almost every aspect, namely franchise wins/losses closer than any other team in the NFL.

lol

They never made a superbowl. At least we have those bragging rights 

[onmyown]

3 minutes ago, NAS said:

They never made a superbowl. At least we have those bragging rights 

This is true, and is the biggest difference. They have recently got real close though. Luckily I think they’ve peaked with their present staff...could be wrong though. I think actually winning one would finally separate the Panthers from them,  but more importantly finally being able to establish the Falcons suck more.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

lulz are the panthers even .500 under hurney?

but yeah the jets are trash

[DCR]

Is  that  our  ambition  ? 

To  be  better  than  the  Jets !

 

 

[Smithers]

6 hours ago, onmyown said:

As much as people make fun of the jags on this forum I always chuckle. Since inception, the Jags are almost identical to the Panthers and resemble them in almost every aspect, namely franchise wins/losses closer than any other team in the NFL.

lol

The Jags haven’t been to 2 Super Bowls 

[bababoey]

7 hours ago, onmyown said:

As much as people make fun of the jags on this forum I always chuckle. Since inception, the Jags are almost identical to the Panthers and resemble them in almost every aspect, namely franchise wins/losses closer than any other team in the NFL.

lol

Not making fun of the Jags.  Just saying you can do this to most any team during some point in there history.

Tennessee Titans 2009-2013

2009 Kenny Britt  - 5 years free agent

2010 Derrick Morgan - 9 years out of league since 2018

2011 Jake Locker - 4 years retired

2012 Kendall Wright - 5 years free agent out of the league since 2017

2013 Chance Warmack - 4 years free agent out of the league since 2018

You take a 4 - 6 year period for most teams in the NFL in the last 25 - 30 years and you are going to find a bad run of first round picks.  You can blame it on the GM or the scouts or injuries or whatever you want but it is rare that it doesn't happen.  Making fun of the Jets now is kind of like saying Brady is a bad QB because the last pass he threw was intercepted and returned for a TD. 

 

[SpeedOFLight]

Every team gas players that didn’t pan out including very high picks. That’s the nature of the business. 

[Peon Awesome]

Does emphasize the point that GMs who are damn near 100% on their 1st rounders, even when picking high, is a rare feat. Keeping ours while bringing in multiple other staff to reign back his other roles/shore up his weaknesses maybe has better logic than outright firing him. But we'll see.