Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

"Teddy will never be good enough" crowd


Jeremy Igo

Recommended Posts

2 hours ago, Catsmiaow said:

It's because they don't watch the Panthers. The receivers YAC ability and clever use by Brady create box score stats that tell a very different story from his actual play. What I find annoying is the game commentators singing his praises when hes clearly making bad Wentz-like throws. So un-objective. All they care about is his story-yawn. 

 I admit I can see a lot of good things he's done but why are people just pretending that he's some kind of transcendent QB?

  If you give him that contract (and the saints a 3rd round comp)  a nice comeback story isn't enough.

Can confirm. Talk to folks who only follow us through fantasy football and TV highlights and they all say that Teddy is having a good year. It's like the reverse of how they looked at Cam from afar.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 Its been obvious to any knowledgeable fan (for years now) that Teddy is a backup quality qb. Its kind of scary that multiple people in our front office thought he was a good idea. Did they not have access to you tube? How many times in Teddys career has he thrown a 1 yard pass on 3rd and long? Oh but that completion percentage though....f*ck me! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Catsmiaow said:

The receivers YAC ability and clever use by Brady create box score stats that tell a very different story from his actual play. 

Coaches and coordinators don't give a sh-t about "creating box score stats".

They're trying to win.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, nctarheelreincarnated said:

You're still defending him? Holy shitttttttttttttttttttttt

Huh?

Where in those tweets did it say anything about Bridgewater?

I’m talking QB traits. You don’t need a cannon of an arm to be a good QB. And that is true.

Bridgewater played horrible Sunday. I sure as sh!t not debating that

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, *FreeFua* said:

Huh?

Where in those tweets did it say anything about Bridgewater?

I’m talking QB traits. You don’t need a cannon of an arm to be a good QB. And that is true.

Bridgewater played horrible Sunday. I sure as sh!t not debating that

Nope. Fans love guys that can throw it sixty yards downfield but it's not about throwing it a long way or even throwing it hard. It's about throwing it to a spot where it needs to be and doing so accurately.

For me, a strong arm is well down the list of priorities for a quarterback. Accuracy and brains are the top two by a mile.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nope. Fans love guys that can throw it sixty yards downfield but it's not about throwing it a long way or even throwing it hard. It's about throwing it to a spot where it needs to be and doing so accurately.

For me, a strong arm is well down the list of priorities for a quarterback. Accuracy and brains are the top two by a mile.

Eh idk. Maybe 10 years ago. The game has changed so much the past 10 years. Hell even the last 3 years. I think a strong arm is way more important now than it ever has been. You have to stretch the field in the modern NFL

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, jb2288 said:

Eh idk. Maybe 10 years ago. The game has changed so much the past 10 years. Hell even the last 3 years. I think a strong arm is way more important now than it ever has been. You have to stretch the field in the modern NFL

The winningest quarterback in the league is a 43 year-old guy whose arm strength was never exactly special.

You've also got Drew Brees who doesn't exactly have a cannon on his shoulder either.

Throw in that West Coast and E-P systems seem to be a lot more prevalent in the league now than vertical systems like the Coryell.

Consistent production is a way better winning formula than hoping for big plays.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Give me Mitchell Evans over T Sanders in this run heavy offense any day of the week. 
    • What's up gents, the OGs remember me, the guy who single-handedly gave the Panthers the greatest uniform in history moniker. Not too long after that I got involved with Pro Football Focus (pre-Collinsworth acquisition) and ended up taking backseat here to preserve some objectivity. But from a distance I noticed a lot. After the end of the Cam era this place devolved into the most un-fun, petty, negative cesspool of whining and bitching that has ever graced the internet. The worst part of it all is that the level of discussion turned into the most ill-informed, hot-take, unnuanced crap, rife with people talking out of their posteriors as if they have any clue about what they are watching. Once you get into the professional side of the sport and actual film rooms, you start to understand there's an absurd number of moving parts to pretty much every snap and the details you are privy to are truly only half the picture. The absolute most important thing I learned from being part of professional level football analysis is that quarterbacking is literally the most intricate and difficult position in all of professional sports, and that the NFL itself is struggling to develop any workable model that allows them to understand what makes one succeed vs what makes one fail. Because of this paradox it has also made the quarterback position itself grossly overvalued from a fan and media standpoint, creating an absurd fixation on the results delivered by a single player who has to rely on the contributions of everyone around them. This also drives the dreaded inflation of QB salaries that inevitably cause even elite teams to lose key talent all to pour cash into the one player supposed to be able to single-handedly elevate the entire team (and defense and special teams and coaching and ownership by some mysterious proxy), yet without those same players even talented teams can wander the wilderness searching for the right guy to take advantage of their talent window. The discussions the last few years around Bryce has personified this insanity, as this board has devolved into some sort of electronic civil war between the hyperbolic Young supporters and the vitriolic Bryce haters. The reality, like practically everything in this world, is somewhere in the middle. He has traits that can absolutely elevate a team with creativity, play recognition, off-arm angle throws, mental toughness, etc. He's also physically limited, with mostly "good-enough" qualities for most situations that a professional quarterback is asked to do, and will never be an overpowering physical force like pre-injury Cam. But "good-enough" physicality represents a large majority of championship-winning quarterbacks, even in the modern era. There's a reason the corpse of Peyton Manning took the chip from elite physical specimen Cam, because the team surrounding him was talented enough to get him there, while we all know Cam was the driving force of that 2015 team. That's no knock on him, that's just how the game of football tends to work: the more complete team usually wins. The summary is this: if this team lives or dies solely on the performance of its quarterback, then it is absolutely a paper tiger even if he plays brilliantly week in and out. There are no superheroes in this sport, there are only conduits that proxy the collective efforts of much of the team around them. And no one alive can tell you how the position is played perfectly, it's all a confluence of circumstance and what unique collection of traits each player brings to the position, which can never be truly recreated season after season, even for the same player on the same team. If this place remains a raging hellscape of idiotic hot takes I will happily remove myself again and do something more productive for yet another decade, but maybe's there hope that we can all get back to the old adage, and keep pounding.
    • Really impressed how the bottom six have looked the past couple games
×
×
  • Create New...