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big players make big plays in big games

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Just now, electro's horse said:

fwiw I doubt Moore comes down with that ball in the endzone regardless

he was about to get lit the fug up

That's why I initially didn't put it on him because he would have had to survive the big hit which was at the catch level comin gdown on the ball anyway.

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3 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

it's about teddy, because we are trying to determine whether or not teddy is a franchise quarterback, because if he's not we need to get one. this couldn't be simpler.

moore dropped a game-changing ball in the end zone at the end of the first half. he needs work. he deserves criticism. he's not a quarterback however and we don't need him to be a franchise guy. this couldn't be simpler 

And if DJ catches those passes that Teddy made

Then this is a different game if he makes those catches.

We're not forced to pass under 2 minutes against an elite D-line with a poo o-line that lead that dropped int if DJ catches those balls.

 

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9 minutes ago, Rags said:

I normally do not agree with you here but this is spot on.

If D.J. is supposed to be a #1 WR he's gotta come down with thoses. Those are the off kilter throws Ryan, Ben and Hopkins used to throw to Julio, Brown and Nuk respectively. 

D.J. was more of a let down than Teddy today.

This is how you can tell someone didn’t watch a game 

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1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

nah. I don't think CMC makes much a difference in that game.

Short and Fat Hands, yeah, I think that does it. Panthers defense was just one play away all game and couldn't get it. 

Short would have helped worlds, no matter what the huddle thinks. But when Davis went down late first half, if we were able to bounce our run game around between Davis and CMC perhaps we wouldn't have a crippled Davis by the end of the game. Even if CMC was just the supplementary. that or maybe not hide Bonnafon on IR to try and keep him and just keep him on the roster instead of this Cannon scrub(No offense dude but you aint a RB), your a ST star. 

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Just now, Carl Spackler said:

This is how you can tell someone didn’t watch a game 

Watched every snap my man.

I just don't act on blind emotion and says this person sucks.

D.J. statwise had his best game of the season against a rookie CB and it doesn't matter because his drops were all in big moments.

We missed Cmac because he wins those one on ones after the catch that Davis is 50/50 on and our oline sucks at pass pro.

That last int Quinn came off the edge and Teddy couldn't step up. Forced a pass rather than take a sack he tried to push the ball. Bad decision but fug I've excused Cam for pressing in the past I'd be a hypocrite for doing that to Teddy.

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1 minute ago, Rags said:

Watched every snap my man.

I just don't act on blind emotion and says this person sucks.

D.J. statwise had his best game of the season against a rookie CB and it doesn't matter because his drops were all in big moments.

We missed Cmac because he wins those one on ones after the catch that Davis is 50/50 on and our oline sucks at pass pro.

That last int Quinn came off the edge and Teddy couldn't step up. Forced a pass rather than take a sack he tried to push the ball. Bad decision but fug I've excused Cam for pressing in the past I'd be a hypocrite for doing that to Teddy.

Whose fault was that first INT? 

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5 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Fair enough. I look forward to him bouncing back. This was the best defense he will face all season.

That's the concern. Good enough against average defense but fails when playing against elite defences.

To reach and win a super bowl you probably need a QB that can step up and deliver when the team around him fails. Not every game of course, but once or twice during a playoff stretch. 

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15 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

it's about teddy, because we are trying to determine whether or not teddy is a franchise quarterback, because if he's not we need to get one. this couldn't be simpler.

moore dropped a game-changing ball in the end zone at the end of the first half. he needs work. he deserves criticism. he's not a quarterback however and we don't need him to be a franchise guy. this couldn't be simpler 

the last 2 offensive plays of this game were squarely on Teddy, but he had a decent 4th quarter before that.  which is just what teddy is... decent. he isn't great, he isn't spectacular, and he certainly isn't going to consistently beat great teams (edit: on his own) it seems.  he's decent, and he's letting us see what we have in our offense & oc.

and as far as the whole offense goes, we were sorely undermanned today at critical skill positions.  and despite that, we were in position to tie late in the game.  as far as overall progress of the team goes, that's actually promising.  but as far as evaluating Teddy, he definitely failed to add to his resume / argument for why he's a franchise qb.

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