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Film Study: How Matt Rhule system works for the Carolina Panthers

TheSpecialJuan

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It's always good when you have a QB who can scramble when facing man to man and nothing is available down field.

I don't mind this offense but the danger is DB starting to break on the ball in zone coverage and making breakups and interceptions. The DBs have less to fear because they're not seeing double moves as much and Teddy is not connecting deep. So as the game moves along the DBs start taking chances and breaking for picks. With the Bears they knew their pass rush would limit our deep passes, add to that Teddy misses a lot deep, and you end up with aggressive DBs looking at the QB and breaking on routes. 

When we're not doing well in the trenches you can feel it as a fan. You feel pressure, and you know Teddy is reaching his breaking point where he is going to start throwing bad passes. Teddy is fine when we're ripping off one big run after another, and no one is getting near him. He's aces. He's a totally different QB when the run is not going so well, and the pocket is not holding up. You know then the interceptions are coming, and we can't recover from them.

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8 hours ago, pantherj said:

When we're not doing well in the trenches..... He's a totally different QB when the run is not going so well, and the pocket is not holding up. You know then the interceptions are coming, and we can't recover from them.

Dude, every QB doesn’t do good when the O-line plays like crap, run is get stuffed and pressure in the QB’s face....

It’s like saying.... You know if a team scores the most point they probably will win. 

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9 minutes ago, Carolina Mike said:

Dude, every QB doesn’t do good when the O-line plays like crap, run is get stuffed and pressure in the QB’s face....

It’s like saying.... You know if a team scores the most point they probably will win. 

I don't think every QB doesn't do good under tough conditions. The all time greats could take over a game even with the run not well and a shaky pocket.

If a team scores the most points they will certainly win.

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4 hours ago, pantherj said:

I don't think every QB doesn't do good under tough conditions. The all time greats could take over a game even with the run not well and a shaky pocket.

If a team scores the most points they will certainly win.

So your saying Teddy is not playing like the all time greats?  Well no sh*t.  Tell me who is besides maybe Wilson this season.  

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15 minutes ago, raz said:

its weird how all time greats just happen to have really good olines.  i don't know if there is any correlation at all.  i'm sure its just a coincidence. purely happenstance 

There is some correlation, I agree, but players like Archie Manning and Fran Tarkenton never had "great" lines and yet were widely recognized as some of the best QB's of their era.

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19 minutes ago, BrianS said:

There is some correlation, I agree, but players like Archie Manning and Fran Tarkenton never had "great" lines and yet were widely recognized as some of the best QB's of their era.

or maybe just the most fun to watch

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Going to finish the whole video but just have to note, that first play is a perfect example of why CMC is so valuable. Every receiver was blanketed in coverage, but If teddy swung it out quickly to CMC, he only had to beat one linebacker in space which is a matchup he’ll almost always win. 

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3 hours ago, BrianS said:

There is some correlation, I agree, but players like Archie Manning and Fran Tarkenton never had "great" lines and yet were widely recognized as some of the best QB's of their era.

You have to remember the game was a lot different back then.   You have to put it into some perspective.

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6 hours ago, raz said:

its weird how all time greats just happen to have really good olines.  i don't know if there is any correlation at all.  i'm sure its just a coincidence. purely happenstance 

Russ has had a really bad O Line his entire career and he's been great for a long time.

Now, O Line surely has a lot to do with making QB's better, but I don't think it's the end all be all when talking about the "all time" guys.

If prime Manning 1's line was suspect, he was smart enough not to have it completely derail a season.  A great OL can make a good QB look like a great one.  Much like Reid's system can make an OK QB seem like a really really good one...and a really good one seem like an all timer.

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2 hours ago, thefuzz said:

Russ has had a really bad O Line his entire career and he's been great for a long time.

Now, O Line surely has a lot to do with making QB's better, but I don't think it's the end all be all when talking about the "all time" guys.

If prime Manning 1's line was suspect, he was smart enough not to have it completely derail a season.  A great OL can make a good QB look like a great one.  Much like Reid's system can make an OK QB seem like a really really good one...and a really good one seem like an all timer.

weird how russ's got fixed and now he's playing like an all time great

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