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tre lance is a risk because of the unk , one of the best seasons ever statistically , a one up and down 2020 game thats iffy , but could it be he did bad so his stock goes out of top 5 so he can be drafted by a team that already has talent , could be . but potential alone he should be the pick , he has a rocket arm , he is fast , he is a solid runner , he can throw on the run , he doesnt turn the ball over often , and a very under looked part that that from me watching 14 videos of lance is that he is in a  NFL style offense , he plays under center goes through reads he is not in a college shotgun crazy offense .his potential is a mix of cam which we all miss , lamar jackson and some patrick mahomes in him . just with his athletic side i cant see him bad at all , does he get the ball out quick enough or is he a good pocket passer idk thats the unknowns . 

potential alone he is the best qb in this draft and boy i hope we can get him , its making me lose sleep because i want him as our pick !!!!! lets get it hurney . 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

what in , the fug did i . just read ?

Something that wasn't proofread? :thinking:

As to the premise though, right now I'm more on the Zach Wilson train. Heck, there are national guys looking at him as potentially better than Justin Fields.

I still can't jump on that train with both feet though, specifically because a lot of what's being said about him physically reminds me of our current quarterback's pre-draft evaluations.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Something that wasn't proofread? :thinking:

As to the premise though, right now I'm more on the Zach Wilson train. Heck, there are national guys looking at him as potentially better than Justin Fields.

I still can't jump on that train with both feet though, specifically because a lot of what's being said about him physically reminds me of our current quarterback's pre-draft evaluations.

Lawrence

Fields

Wilson

Lance

Trask 

is likely going to be the order in the draft. 

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I dunno.. imagine Zach Wilson paired up with Joe Brady. I think Wilson has vaulted himself as the #3 QB of this draft. And I’m not for it, but I’m sure some draft evaluators will be unsure of Fields due to the talent at every position at Ohio State. 

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11 minutes ago, Jesse said:

I dunno.. imagine Zach Wilson paired up with Joe Brady. I think Wilson has vaulted himself as the #3 QB of this draft. And I’m not for it, but I’m sure some draft evaluators will be unsure of Fields due to the talent at every position at Ohio State. 

Definitely worth remembering that if you're looking at somebody to run our current scheme, you're probably seeking a steady "game manager" type more so than a big play guy.

Mind you, I don't say that as an endorsement of one quarterback over another. It's just something you have to take into account when you're evaluating.

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35 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I still can't jump on that train with both feet though, specifically because a lot of what's being said about him physically reminds me of our current quarterback's pre-draft evaluations.

I went and watched a video to see Wilson's throws...I think you may be on to something. I wasn't blown away but it was also just a small portion. Going in a lateral direction at QB is a waste, we already have Teddy for 2 more years. Go draft somewhere else if that's the case. 

I don't care about hype. Teddy that just doesn't have a good enough mix of skills and physical talent. It's not fair but every game I watch it's evident. If the draftee doesn't, they shouldn't be our pick. It was like looking at Little coming out. I get why they draft experts put him where he went but damn, he didn't pass the eye test at all. In the end, if you would rather play against them then have them play for you is there anything more that needs to be said? Need makes these people do dumb crap every year. 

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48 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Something that wasn't proofread? :thinking:

As to the premise though, right now I'm more on the Zach Wilson train. Heck, there are national guys looking at him as potentially better than Justin Fields.

I still can't jump on that train with both feet though, specifically because a lot of what's being said about him physically reminds me of our current quarterback's pre-draft evaluations.

if the national perception is that Wilson is better than Fields, then Jags will probably take him.

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7 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

if the national perception is that Wilson is better than Fields, then Jags will probably take him.

Well to be fair, national perception didn't have Mitch Trubisky ahead of Patrick Mahomes and DeShaun watson, but the Bears perception did.

I'm always reluctant to try to predict what bad teams are going to do. Worth noting that the Jags will have a new general manager at that time, and he might want to make a splash.

Wilson doesn't say "splash" to me, but Fields does.

 

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16 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I went and watched a video to see Wilson's throws...I think you may be on to something. I wasn't blown away but it was also just a small portion. Going in a lateral direction at QB is a waste, we already have Teddy for 2 more years. Go draft somewhere else if that's the case. 

I don't care about hype. Teddy that just doesn't have a good enough mix of skills and physical talent. It's not fair but every game I watch it's evident. If the draftee doesn't, they shouldn't be our pick. It was like looking at Little coming out. I get why they draft experts put him where he went but damn, he didn't pass the eye test at all. In the end, if you would rather play against them then have them play for you is there anything more that needs to be said? Need makes these people do dumb crap every year. 

To be clear, my fears on that front are less "Can he make the throws" and more "Xayn he take the pounding?'

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