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Carolina Panthers to be 'aggressive' in pursuit of potential Deshaun Watson trade


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36 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Unfortunately it will be till March. But if you can stand 4 months of draft talk I think we can stand this. 

Draft talk is a cornucopia of rumors, trade talks, prospects. This is the same BS we’ve been hearing and posting about for grossly 2 weeks now and the needle hasn’t really moved.

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57 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

Y'all realize that his no trade clause gives him the right not decline being traded to a team he does not want to go? Meaning if he doesn't want to go to the JETS, he does not GO there. Watson has leverage here guys. If he wants to play for you he will accept the trade. 

Is that still true if he formally requested a trade?

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Jonathan Jones estimated it would take first round picks, Christian McCaffrey and Brian Burns.

Other teams have way more draft capital than we do. And if you're counting on Watson saying he only wants to go to the Panthers, that's probably a pipe dream.

Doesnt matter what other teams got. That clause has to be satisfied. Not a pipe dream.

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3 minutes ago, MVPccaffrey said:

You geniuses who keep saying we can't outbid the Jets and Miami know that there's nothing they can offer that we can't just compensate for by adding picks from additional years yes?  There's no Stepian rule in the NFL as far as I know

You have to look at cap space, too. And let's not forget New England has a poo-ton of cap room, need a QB and so does Indianapolis. And nobody seems to be thinking about them. 

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Just now, rippadonn said:

Doesnt matter what other teams got. That clause has to be satisfied. Not a pipe dream.

If you're clinging to the idea that Watson is going to demand he be traded to the Panthers and the Panthers only, and that because of this the Texans are going to trade him for less than what he's worth, you're likely going to wind up very disappointed.

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2 minutes ago, Mvp2014 said:

no trade clause.  couldnt he force a trade with us if our organization was where he wantd to play?

Not that easily.

But like I've said a couple of times already, anybody who thinks he's absolutely got his heart set on playing for the Panthers and will force the Texans to trade him for a lesser offer just to play for us probably needs to put down the Madden controller.

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