Carolina Panthers to be 'aggressive' in pursuit of potential Deshaun Watson trade

[CRA]

34 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

I almost chuckled.  

Noted.  I’ll keep grinding.  

[Basbear]

Just now, CRA said:

I personally never considered him that.   In how I define things I’d put him in whatever tier Stafford climbed into.  

Id say Stafford is elite. Understand being different/picky about "elite" label. He was just the last one I thought of being traded, hell feels like he wore a leather helmet. Orton was a decent QB, who did get to SB was included in that trade.  miss the early memes for those times 

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

15 minutes ago, Basbear said:

He did have a cannon. I feel about the same about both, not a fan, but not a hater either. Jay had waaay talent tho. 

My thoughts are the same, It's worth noting that Huddle consensus was to trade the farm for Cutler back then lol.

[Jaxel]

5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Id say Stafford is elite. Understand being different/picky about "elite" label. He was just the last one I thought of being traded, hell feels like he wore a leather helmet. Orton was a decent QB, who did get to SB was included in that trade.  miss the early memes for those times 

I thought this meme was Rex Grossman.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

7 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Id say Stafford is elite. Understand being different/picky about "elite" label. He was just the last one I thought of being traded, hell feels like he wore a leather helmet. Orton was a decent QB, who did get to SB was included in that trade.  miss the early memes for those times 

I don't care who you are you don't average 4300 passing yards and 27tds a season without being elite... Staffords the only reason they didn't become the only team with multiple 0-16 seasons. He's led some crazy come backs with absolutely no defense.

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

I thought this meme was Rex Grossman.

Thats right, Orton was the boozehound ones. Got my bears QBs mixed up.

 

[CRA]

15 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Id say Stafford is elite. Understand being different/picky about "elite" label. He was just the last one I thought of being traded, hell feels like he wore a leather helmet. Orton was a decent QB, who did get to SB was included in that trade.  miss the early memes for those times 

I mean Joe Montana is arguably the GOAT.  He got traded.  Moon got traded.   They both went on to remain Pro Bowlers with their new teams.   Granted they were clearly on the backend.   But talk about big time.

Favre and Hasselbeck got traded and went on to lead their teams into Super Bowls.  They never really got going yet with their original teams. 

I do agree with the notion there is no Watson comparable out there.   No one traded at this early moment with a career ahead of him.....when the entire league fully knows what he is and how great he is.   All examples of that tier QB happened earlier or later in a career.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Thats right, Orton was the boozehound ones. Got my bears QBs mixed up.

 

I remember the Orton led Bears handing us our butts in 2008 he passed for an entire 149 yards lol.

[imminent rogaine]

42 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

yeah good luck with that, we wouldn't even get 1 dozen bo-berry biscuits for them

I’ll do it for a Cajun Filet and some dirty rice. Sold! No take-backs!

[jbland]

2 hours ago, WarHeel said:

I’m ready for this storyline to be over with one way or another.

I still would rather them not do it. 

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

I’ll do it for a Cajun Filet and some dirty rice. Sold! No take-backs!

What has more salt- large dirty rice or 16oz of Bojangles seasoning ??

Edited January 28, 2021 by Basbear

[MHS831]

Watson gives you 10 more years at QB, Stafford gives you 3-5 tops. If Watson costs an extra draft first rounder now, in the long run, probably worth it.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

In all seriousness I would love getting Watson at a price that wouldn't morgage the future.

I have noticed the "All in for Watson crowd" Happens to be a lot of the same people that complained for years about Cam not having an oline or weapons or CBs who could hold a lead.... The same will happen to Watson if you pony that much up..

[MHS831]

I had another thought to share, so I returned. 

Let's say Watson costs 3 first rounders.  Is that worth it?

If you think he is the QB for the next decade, yes.   Look at the Jets--lotta first round busts that take 3 years to bust.  Watson is proven---and if he pans out, which I think he would, you can make moves in rounds 2-7 to add a player or 2.  I am not a fan of trading #1s, but this is an opportunity you rarely get---no rebuild--we would enter WIN NOW mode and still have youth.  I am changing my mind.