Stafford-Goff swap is happening

[TheProcess]

13 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

Possibly. But the Lions have already publicly said they're in full rebuild mode. In that setting, I could see the Rams package as more useful. If you think you're several years from contention, pushing those 1st round picks later when you're ready to make the leap makes sense. Detroit may have decided they need more than 2 top 10 picks to turn the team around. If they see this as a 5 year rebuild, by the time they are ready to compete, those two top 10 picks are suddenly in line for a major extension. Harder to keep the core together. It's also possible their front office isn't as high on the qbs in this draft as other teams. They might've decided they would rather buy super low on Goff and gain ammunition to move up in 2022 or 2023 than pick a qb this year. Not sure any of this went into their thinking but those are ways I could justify it.

Plus there's the unknown value of the Ram's picks. They've given up all their 1st round picks for years. They're primed to implode at some point. If it happens by 2023, that 1st could become super valuable. It's a gamble but who would've expected Houston to have the 3rd worst record this year despite having a healthy Watson in his prime.

The Rams could eventually implode, but not in the next 2 years. Their record this coming season will determine that 2022 pick. Their record next year will determine that 2023 pick. Stafford added to that offense with that defense will be contenders.

Check these 2 scenarios out.

1 - Lions get Goff, 3rd, 2022 1st, and 2023 1st.....both 1st will be bottom end, like 25th or worse.

OR

2 - Lions get the 8th pick. Then trade the 8th pick to a team in the 15th pick range. They get compensation of a 2nd this year, and a 1st next year. 

That pick this year around 15 is more valuable than the Rams pick in 2022.

That 2nd this year is more valuable than a 3rd this year.

That 1st next year in 2022 is more valuable than the Rams pick in 2023.

Not only would the 8th pick net them a better package, they also wouldn't have Goff and his atrocious contract. 

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

They won't do a proper rebuild?

They will not draft a qb and sit him for 2 years.  Thats not how the nfl works anymore.  They have a modern front office now and I bet they go BPA and thats a top WR.

[TheProcess]

45 minutes ago, Murph said:

We might have insisted they take Teddy. If so that probably ruined the deal 

Maybe, but taking Teddy for a year is better than taking Goff and his enormous contract. Trading the 8th pick back in the 15 range nets you a better package than the Rams package.

[TheProcess]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

They will not draft a qb and sit him for 2 years.  Thats not how the nfl works anymore.  They have a modern front office now and I bet they go BPA and thats a top WR.

I agree, either WR or LT, with Smith, Chase, Sewell, and Slater as targets. I guess Waddle or a trade down could be in play if those 4 are gone.

I would add Pitts, but doubt it since they have TJ Hockenson

[Moo Daeng]

The Lions would be foolish to draft  qb that high to sit. That makes no sense. Later? Sure. People are overvaluing this group of qbs in the draft.

Edited January 31 by Moo Daeng

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, TheProcess said:

The 8th pick this year is more valuable than what they got from the Rams.

The Lions new GM is the guy who was "banging the table' for the Rams to do whatever it took to draft Goff in the first place.

He might see Goff as more valuable than we do.

Edited January 31 by Mr. Scot

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

The Lions new GM is the guy who was "banging the table' for the Rams to do whatever took to draft Goff in the first place.

He might see Goff as more valuable than we do.

Sounds familiar.

[Moo Daeng]

And this seems to make the likelihood of Watson going anywhere small.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

Sounds familiar.

Familiar to me in this case because that's the phrase I've seen used to describe how Brad Holmes felt about Goff when he was with the Rams.

[TheProcess]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The Lions new GM is the guy who was "banging the table' for the Rams to do whatever it took to draft Goff in the first place.

He might see Goff as more valuable than we do.

Valid point, but wow what a risky investment for a new GM and a new Coach. I am glad we didn’t hire that GM.

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Familiar to me in this case because that's the phrase I've seen used to describe how Brad Holmes felt about Goff when he was with the Rams.

It also is reminiscent of the events that took place in our FO last off-season.  I would love it if we could trade Grier to the WTF team for anything, a pick, a player, a hot sandwich, anything.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

Valid point, but wow what a risky investment for a new GM and a new Coach. I am glad we didn’t hire that GM.

Heck we didn't even interview him, and we interviewed everybody.

[ickmule]

Holy Moses.  That’s extremely insane to give up 2 first round picks.  

[Herb]

So lions get 2 firsts, a former 1 overall pick, and a third for Stafford in his 30s and we get zilch for cam? Lmao